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I actually don't think Heroku has changed much at all since they were bought by Salesforce. That's partially a good thing (Salesforce isn't making them worse) b
by freehunter 6y ago
I actually don't think Heroku has changed much at all since they were bought by Salesforce. That's partially a good thing (Salesforce isn't making them worse) but also a bad thing because Salesforce doesn't seem to be making them any better either. Pricing is the biggest thing, despite running on AWS and AWS prices dropping pretty steadily but Heroku's pricing seems to have held firm. Their offerings don't seem to have changed much over the years either, you don't hear about them in the news much, you don't hear a lot of customer stories or companies talking about using Heroku... it just seems stagnant, which in the world of cloud computing is not great.
It's hard to tell if Salesforce has been a positive for Heroku for keeping it alive, or a negative for mismanaging the company, since we don't know what they would have done if they stayed independent and had to actually compete. But I'm pretty sure if they were still independent and had to compete in the market with only the features they have right now, they would likely be out of business. There's very little reason to choose Heroku these days, and I say that as someone who has code running in production on Heroku's platform.
- gkoberger 6y agoReally? I think Heroku has gotten insanely good since Salesforce acquired them. The product is stable, there's a ton of new features (like pipelines), and can't imagine starting a serious project and not using Heroku.
- freehunter 6y agoPipelines was introduced 5 years ago, which also seems to be the last time they changed their prices. Their current model is based around the classic three-tier app (basically Ruby on Rails) no matter how much web applications have changed since then. Heroku still doesn't have any data hosting options. You have to go to a third party for this. Heroku doesn't have any static site hosting options. You have to go to a third party. But the biggest problem I have with Heroku's model is how much I need to pay. I've been a Heroku customer for years and I'm still not exactly sure what a dyno is. And if I get it wrong, I can have auto-scaling... but only if I'm paying a minimum of $250 per month. Now that's not a lot to big companies, but for bootstrappers that's insane. And I only get 2.5GB of RAM for that $250/mo? And if I'm using microservices, every service costs me a minimum of $25/mo, $250/mo if I want auto-scaling on those services. Like I said, Heroku is great and I use it in production and pay them money every month, but man if it's not stuck in 2015. Luckily so is my application so I don't have too many issues except for the ridiculous cost even as EC2 is dramatically cheaper now than it used to be (does Heroku support Graviton? I don't think it does), but PaaS in general is "the old way of doing cloud" and Heroku is becoming less relevant every day.
- crcastle 6y agoRegarding data hosting options https://www.heroku.com/postgres https://www.heroku.com/postgres https://www.heroku.com/redis https://www.heroku.com/redis https://www.heroku.com/kafka https://www.heroku.com/kafka
- freehunter 6y agoSorry, by "data hosting" I meant S3, not a database. Generic file storage.