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At least they haven’t messed with Heroku.

craigkerstiens 6y ago
I'm not sure that's actually the case at this point. Given it is not 10 years into the acquisition that is a pretty long time for it to still not have been engulfed in the mothership, but that time seems to mostly be up now.
cpursley 6y ago
Good thing we have competitive (and cheaper) options now including Digitalocean app platform and Render.com. I'm actually surprised it took this long to match Heroku (and beat them on costs).
- pgm8705 6y ago
  True, but neither are really optimal for serious production use. I've looked at them both extensively as I would love to move off Heroku due to pricing. DO App Platform is still really immature and lacking in a ton of areas. Render is much more polished from a usability standpoint, but AFAIK they don't have any sort of High Availability offerings and have had significant downtime recently. Heroku, on the other hand has been a hassle-free solution for my company over the past 7 years, and short of a few outages (which were actually the fault of AWS from what I remember), it has been absolutely reliable.
  - cpursley 6y ago
    Yeah, Heroku is awesome. I'd stay with them (despite the price) if I could run distributed Elixir.
  - anurag 6y ago
    Just came across this comment (I work at Render). We did have 2 hours of downtime on 9/11 but it was the only big uptime incident in 2020, and we haven't had any major incidents since (even when AWS was down for 5+ hours). We've worked hard to incorporate reliability lessons learned from building the platform at scale especially as we've grown [1], and I hope you'll give us another chance. If I can do anything else to help, my email is my HN handle at render.com. [1] https://www.tfir.io/more-than-100000-services-created-on-zero-devops-cloud-render/ https://www.tfir.io/more-than-100000-services-created-on-zer...
    - cpursley 6y ago
      Maybe this is the wrong place to ask, but are y'all planning on adding an s3 comparable file storage service? That would be the missing piece for us.
fooey 6y ago
They immediately destroyed the free tier
- brightball 6y ago
  True, but the Hobby tier is compelling at least.
- raphaelj 6y ago
  How so ? I'm still using free tier dynos for small tools and workers just because I don't need anything more.
yxhuvud 6y ago
Dunno about that, the Heroku UI seems a bit stalled in development.

I'm not sure that's actually the case at this point. Given it is not 10 years into the acquisition that is a pretty long time for it to still not have been engulfed in the mothership, but that time seems to mostly be up now.

cpursley 6y ago

Good thing we have competitive (and cheaper) options now including Digitalocean app platform and Render.com. I'm actually surprised it took this long to match Heroku (and beat them on costs).

pgm8705 6y ago
True, but neither are really optimal for serious production use. I've looked at them both extensively as I would love to move off Heroku due to pricing. DO App Platform is still really immature and lacking in a ton of areas. Render is much more polished from a usability standpoint, but AFAIK they don't have any sort of High Availability offerings and have had significant downtime recently. Heroku, on the other hand has been a hassle-free solution for my company over the past 7 years, and short of a few outages (which were actually the fault of AWS from what I remember), it has been absolutely reliable.
- cpursley 6y ago
  Yeah, Heroku is awesome. I'd stay with them (despite the price) if I could run distributed Elixir.
- anurag 6y ago
  Just came across this comment (I work at Render). We did have 2 hours of downtime on 9/11 but it was the only big uptime incident in 2020, and we haven't had any major incidents since (even when AWS was down for 5+ hours). We've worked hard to incorporate reliability lessons learned from building the platform at scale especially as we've grown [1], and I hope you'll give us another chance. If I can do anything else to help, my email is my HN handle at render.com. [1] https://www.tfir.io/more-than-100000-services-created-on-zero-devops-cloud-render/ https://www.tfir.io/more-than-100000-services-created-on-zer...
  - cpursley 6y ago
    Maybe this is the wrong place to ask, but are y'all planning on adding an s3 comparable file storage service? That would be the missing piece for us.

fooey 6y ago

They immediately destroyed the free tier

brightball 6y ago
True, but the Hobby tier is compelling at least.
raphaelj 6y ago
How so ? I'm still using free tier dynos for small tools and workers just because I don't need anything more.

yxhuvud 6y ago

Dunno about that, the Heroku UI seems a bit stalled in development.