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Lionel Messi, same goal, 2004 (or thereabouts) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAehMNYw0ig https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAehMNYw0ig

colourgarden 6y ago
2007
topicseed 6y ago
Wish I was in a random bar in Barcelona when that happened. Always a huge pleasure to rewatch it.
- howlgarnish 6y ago
  Barcelona? Or Buenos Aires?
  - EugeneOZ 6y ago
    Messi is Barcelona FC player.
- xapata 6y ago
  I was in a random bar in Barcelona when Ronaldo scored a hat trick to come back against Wolfsburg in the CL. For a Madrid fan, it was amazingly juicy. A little old lady started dancing the flamenco to taunt a table of young lads.
mongol 6y ago
Amazingly similar. I think it is better. Notice how the player that chases him does not slow the pace, but pushes on until he makes a failed attempt to break the play. Speed seems faster too. A good illustration of evolution of the game. Of course, we don't know if Maradona would still have scored with more effort from the English defense, maybe he would. In any case, two great goals.
- cambalache 6y ago
  One was against Getafe in almost-meaningless copa del rey game, the other was against England in a Quarter final game in the WC. Night and day.
  - kshmir 6y ago
    And 4 years after a war were we lost a bunch of kids lives. That day he became a legend to Argentina.
    - cambalache 6y ago
      Of course, but I didnt want to open that magic lamp of politics
  - usaphp 6y ago
    I think he is comparing the technical difficulty of a goal, not the context when it was scored.
    - cambalache 6y ago
      I dont know if you have played football or are a fan, but the context is a great part of the difficulty of a goal, not only were his opponents better the stakes were sky-high. Players who regularly score in a normal game freeze when the do-or-die time comes. For all his brilliance Messi has never scored a goal in a decisive game in a WC, Maradona scored 4 in 2 games in 1986.
      - xapata 6y ago
        And there was that moment Messi skied a penalty kick in ... what was it, the Copa América final? He announced his retirement the day after. Of course, retracted.
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antaviana 6y ago
And Messi also did the replica of the other goal (hand of God) against Espanyol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i37HfAE1X8Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i37HfAE1X8Y
yiyus 6y ago
> same goal Scoring against Getafe is not comparable to scoring against England in a world cup, specially when it is Argentina against England (in a game England invented) only a few years against the Falklands war. It's a great goal by Messi, but Maradona's goal has a place in history books.
- simonebrunozzi 6y ago
  > (in a game England invented) It seems that soccer was invented in China, not in England. [0] [0]: https://www.athleticscholarships.net/history-of-soccer-football.htm https://www.athleticscholarships.net/history-of-soccer-footb...
  - nimbleal 6y ago
    My understanding is that kicking something about with the aim of getting it somewhere or other existed in lots of different places, independently. The modern, codified game more or less resembling what we have today was invented in England.
    - mvc 6y ago
      > The modern, codified game more or less resembling what we have today was invented in England. Arguably Scotland but we're used to England stealing our inventions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combination_Game#Queens_Park_FC,_1867_-_1882:_Pioneers_of_the_Modern_Passing_Game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combination_Game#Queens_Park_F...
  - peteretep 6y ago
    Did you read the link you posted? > Records trace the history of soccer back more than 2,000 years ago to ancient China. Greece, Rome, and parts of Central America also claim to have started the sport; but it was England that transitioned soccer, or what the British and many other people around the world call “football,” into the game we know today. In short: everyone lays claim to kicking around a ball, but England invented the modern game
racl101 6y ago
George Harrison: It's been done.
anonu 6y ago
Messi feels 2x faster than Maradona here
- abiogenesis 6y ago
  True, but remember that in the 80s the rules were different and players did not hesitate to tackle opponents. Also Maradona had to be more careful against England in a World Cup match than Messi playing against Getafe.

colourgarden 6y ago

2007

topicseed 6y ago

Wish I was in a random bar in Barcelona when that happened. Always a huge pleasure to rewatch it.

howlgarnish 6y ago
Barcelona? Or Buenos Aires?
- EugeneOZ 6y ago
  Messi is Barcelona FC player.
xapata 6y ago
I was in a random bar in Barcelona when Ronaldo scored a hat trick to come back against Wolfsburg in the CL. For a Madrid fan, it was amazingly juicy. A little old lady started dancing the flamenco to taunt a table of young lads.

mongol 6y ago

Amazingly similar. I think it is better. Notice how the player that chases him does not slow the pace, but pushes on until he makes a failed attempt to break the play. Speed seems faster too. A good illustration of evolution of the game. Of course, we don't know if Maradona would still have scored with more effort from the English defense, maybe he would. In any case, two great goals.

cambalache 6y ago
One was against Getafe in almost-meaningless copa del rey game, the other was against England in a Quarter final game in the WC. Night and day.
- kshmir 6y ago
  And 4 years after a war were we lost a bunch of kids lives. That day he became a legend to Argentina.
  - cambalache 6y ago
    Of course, but I didnt want to open that magic lamp of politics
- usaphp 6y ago
  I think he is comparing the technical difficulty of a goal, not the context when it was scored.
  - cambalache 6y ago
    I dont know if you have played football or are a fan, but the context is a great part of the difficulty of a goal, not only were his opponents better the stakes were sky-high. Players who regularly score in a normal game freeze when the do-or-die time comes. For all his brilliance Messi has never scored a goal in a decisive game in a WC, Maradona scored 4 in 2 games in 1986.
    - xapata 6y ago
      And there was that moment Messi skied a penalty kick in ... what was it, the Copa América final? He announced his retirement the day after. Of course, retracted.
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antaviana 6y ago

And Messi also did the replica of the other goal (hand of God) against Espanyol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i37HfAE1X8Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i37HfAE1X8Y

yiyus 6y ago

> same goal Scoring against Getafe is not comparable to scoring against England in a world cup, specially when it is Argentina against England (in a game England invented) only a few years against the Falklands war. It's a great goal by Messi, but Maradona's goal has a place in history books.

simonebrunozzi 6y ago
> (in a game England invented) It seems that soccer was invented in China, not in England. [0] [0]: https://www.athleticscholarships.net/history-of-soccer-football.htm https://www.athleticscholarships.net/history-of-soccer-footb...
- nimbleal 6y ago
  My understanding is that kicking something about with the aim of getting it somewhere or other existed in lots of different places, independently. The modern, codified game more or less resembling what we have today was invented in England.
  - mvc 6y ago
    > The modern, codified game more or less resembling what we have today was invented in England. Arguably Scotland but we're used to England stealing our inventions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combination_Game#Queens_Park_FC,_1867_-_1882:_Pioneers_of_the_Modern_Passing_Game https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combination_Game#Queens_Park_F...
- peteretep 6y ago
  Did you read the link you posted? > Records trace the history of soccer back more than 2,000 years ago to ancient China. Greece, Rome, and parts of Central America also claim to have started the sport; but it was England that transitioned soccer, or what the British and many other people around the world call “football,” into the game we know today. In short: everyone lays claim to kicking around a ball, but England invented the modern game

racl101 6y ago

George Harrison: It's been done.

anonu 6y ago

Messi feels 2x faster than Maradona here

abiogenesis 6y ago
True, but remember that in the 80s the rules were different and players did not hesitate to tackle opponents. Also Maradona had to be more careful against England in a World Cup match than Messi playing against Getafe.