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Not sure why this is here (don't follow soccer and never heard of Maradona), but the "Hand of God" incident is an entertaining read: https://en.wikipedia.org/w

by aazaa 6y ago

Not sure why this is here (don't follow soccer and never heard of Maradona), but the "Hand of God" incident is an entertaining read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_hand_of_God https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_hand_of_God and watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ccNkksrfls https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ccNkksrfls On second thought, this was probably a hack of sorts.

mellosouls 6y ago
It's presumably here because HN is not parochial and Maradona was a Michael Jordan level global superstar, with some claiming him as the greatest ever at his sport.
- pelasaco 6y ago
  after Pele, in so many aspects (including soccer)
  - usrusr 6y ago
    Well, in direct comparison Pelé seems a bit deficient in tragic dark sides. That makes him greater in many ways, but also less of an attention magnet. On the list of Roman emperors people can name, Nero will rank quite close to the top.
    - pelasaco 6y ago
      he had some too https://www.abc.net.au/news/2006-10-18/peles-daughter-dies/1289066 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2006-10-18/peles-daughter-dies/1... But the parallel with Nero somehow is quite on point. They had, surprisingly, many similarities.
- msla 6y ago
  > Michael Jordan Who wouldn't belong here, either.
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  - PlugTunin 6y ago
    There would not be any place for the news of his passing on Hacker News, if that were to happen?!
    - msla 6y ago
      No, there wouldn't, or at least shouldn't.
rorykoehler 6y ago
Maradona is the Michael Jackson of football. Out of this world both on and off pitch/stage. A larger than life charismatic eccentric. See the other goal he scored in the hand of God game (a world cup semi final no less) to see a complete picture of what he was all about.
- mrleinad 6y ago
  Did you mean Michael Jordan?
  - cafard 6y ago
    Given that he said pitch/stage and not pitch/court, I assume he did mean Michael Jackson.
  - g42gregory 6y ago
    I think he meant Michael Jackson both for the eccentricity and talent. If I were to think of an analog to Michael Jordan in football, I think of Pele. Although, in my opinion, and also relatively speaking, I think Pele accomplished a lot more than Michael Jordan in the corresponding sport.
eatplayrove 6y ago
I am not criticizing or sneering, but I am astonished that there are people that have never heard of Maradona.
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- msla 6y ago
  > I am astonished that there are people that have never heard of Maradona. Why would anyone who doesn't follow one very specific sport have heard of that person? Stop being parochial. I never have, but I don't follow rugby.
  - julienfr112 6y ago
    Or maybe from a place where football is played by armored guys mostly using their hands ?
    - msla 6y ago
      OK. I've still never heard of this person. I'm still not sure why everyone assumes everyone else must have heard of this person, and downvotes everyone who hasn't. There's a weird, exclusive, gatekeeping vibe going on here, and it's extremely unwelcoming to people who didn't have a very specific background growing up. My background didn't include whatever sport this person apparently played, so I don't know them, so I'm somehow a bad person? I don't get it.
      - PlugTunin 6y ago
        That you hadn't heard of him was perhaps not sufficient basis for feelings of astonishment. I guess it's just surprising to people of a certain age, who overlooked the age/background of yourself and others. But I really don't think it was intended to be exclusionary or make you feel unwelcome. The down votes were probably b/c of the Michael Jordan comment. If there is a rule that every submission must have a tech, science or similar angle, it appears there are exceptions. And most people are OK with it.
PlugTunin 6y ago
It's possible that he was sort of a big deal? Just something to consider next time you are thrown for a loop while scrolling to find the latest Python news.
- msla 6y ago
  > It's possible that he was sort of a big deal? Where? I've never heard of him.
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  - mnl 6y ago
    Hey, as you go on posting irrelevant variations of this, I'm just curious: how old are you? Are you aware that the World existed before the Internet or the year 2000 and that this guy happened to be the best player in the most popular sport in the World who also scored a goal that was considered pretty much impossible until ten years later a dude called Ronaldo (the original one) scored something like it against a much weaker team in a national league, not in a World Cup, a global event that happens to draw pretty much the same viewership than the Olympics? So yeah, outside your own limited experience Maradona was a huge deal. Never a big fan myself though yet dep, barrilete cósmico and hugs to all the Argentinian folks, it's difficult to convey why and how much they feel what they do about this flawed individual, but they do.
    - msla 6y ago
      > Are you aware that the World existed before the Internet or the year 2000 This is the weird, obsessive, gatekeeping vibe I'm talking about, as if not knowing one specific person from one specific country makes you utterly ignorant. I don't expect people like you to know about Emmy Noether, even though she was an important figure, and I certainly wouldn't degrade them for not knowing what she accomplished.
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billforsternz 6y ago
It's interesting that you've never heard of one of the most famous people in the world. Probably a reflection of insular American media perhaps. It doesn't work in reverse, Babe Ruth was one of the most famous people in the world even though most people around the world don't follow baseball.
- aazaa 6y ago
  It would be even more interesting to compile a list of the world's most famous people that most of the world's people have not heard of. My point is that a person can be very famous around the world and still not known by many people. Parochialism doesn't need to be invoked, just math.
  - PlugTunin 6y ago
    10 years ago, Captain Crunch was my next door neighbor. Yes, that Captain Crunch. One time he asked me, in reference to the actor's name being mentioned in the media, "Who's Brad Pitt?". I laughed my ass off, because I decided he was the only person in LA County to have asked that question anytime recently. Incidentally, I guarantee you he has no idea who Diego Maradona is. Crunch also once asked me, 2 days after the election, "Did Obama win?". He was traveling overseas and was "out of the loop". I saved the email and laugh about it to this day. (If you don't know who Crunch is, and you're using this website, that's funny.)
- Mulpze15 6y ago
  Most countries on earth don't really play baseball. In those, the huge majority of people have never heard of Babe Ruth.

by aazaa 6y ago

mellosouls 6y ago

It's presumably here because HN is not parochial and Maradona was a Michael Jordan level global superstar, with some claiming him as the greatest ever at his sport.

pelasaco 6y ago
after Pele, in so many aspects (including soccer)
- usrusr 6y ago
  Well, in direct comparison Pelé seems a bit deficient in tragic dark sides. That makes him greater in many ways, but also less of an attention magnet. On the list of Roman emperors people can name, Nero will rank quite close to the top.
  - pelasaco 6y ago
    he had some too https://www.abc.net.au/news/2006-10-18/peles-daughter-dies/1289066 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2006-10-18/peles-daughter-dies/1... But the parallel with Nero somehow is quite on point. They had, surprisingly, many similarities.
msla 6y ago
> Michael Jordan Who wouldn't belong here, either.
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- PlugTunin 6y ago
  There would not be any place for the news of his passing on Hacker News, if that were to happen?!
  - msla 6y ago
    No, there wouldn't, or at least shouldn't.

rorykoehler 6y ago

Maradona is the Michael Jackson of football. Out of this world both on and off pitch/stage. A larger than life charismatic eccentric. See the other goal he scored in the hand of God game (a world cup semi final no less) to see a complete picture of what he was all about.

mrleinad 6y ago
Did you mean Michael Jordan?
- cafard 6y ago
  Given that he said pitch/stage and not pitch/court, I assume he did mean Michael Jackson.
- g42gregory 6y ago
  I think he meant Michael Jackson both for the eccentricity and talent. If I were to think of an analog to Michael Jordan in football, I think of Pele. Although, in my opinion, and also relatively speaking, I think Pele accomplished a lot more than Michael Jordan in the corresponding sport.

eatplayrove 6y ago

I am not criticizing or sneering, but I am astonished that there are people that have never heard of Maradona.

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msla 6y ago
> I am astonished that there are people that have never heard of Maradona. Why would anyone who doesn't follow one very specific sport have heard of that person? Stop being parochial. I never have, but I don't follow rugby.
- julienfr112 6y ago
  Or maybe from a place where football is played by armored guys mostly using their hands ?
  - msla 6y ago
    OK. I've still never heard of this person. I'm still not sure why everyone assumes everyone else must have heard of this person, and downvotes everyone who hasn't. There's a weird, exclusive, gatekeeping vibe going on here, and it's extremely unwelcoming to people who didn't have a very specific background growing up. My background didn't include whatever sport this person apparently played, so I don't know them, so I'm somehow a bad person? I don't get it.
    - PlugTunin 6y ago
      That you hadn't heard of him was perhaps not sufficient basis for feelings of astonishment. I guess it's just surprising to people of a certain age, who overlooked the age/background of yourself and others. But I really don't think it was intended to be exclusionary or make you feel unwelcome. The down votes were probably b/c of the Michael Jordan comment. If there is a rule that every submission must have a tech, science or similar angle, it appears there are exceptions. And most people are OK with it.

PlugTunin 6y ago

It's possible that he was sort of a big deal? Just something to consider next time you are thrown for a loop while scrolling to find the latest Python news.

msla 6y ago
> It's possible that he was sort of a big deal? Where? I've never heard of him.
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- mnl 6y ago
  Hey, as you go on posting irrelevant variations of this, I'm just curious: how old are you? Are you aware that the World existed before the Internet or the year 2000 and that this guy happened to be the best player in the most popular sport in the World who also scored a goal that was considered pretty much impossible until ten years later a dude called Ronaldo (the original one) scored something like it against a much weaker team in a national league, not in a World Cup, a global event that happens to draw pretty much the same viewership than the Olympics? So yeah, outside your own limited experience Maradona was a huge deal. Never a big fan myself though yet dep, barrilete cósmico and hugs to all the Argentinian folks, it's difficult to convey why and how much they feel what they do about this flawed individual, but they do.
  - msla 6y ago
    > Are you aware that the World existed before the Internet or the year 2000 This is the weird, obsessive, gatekeeping vibe I'm talking about, as if not knowing one specific person from one specific country makes you utterly ignorant. I don't expect people like you to know about Emmy Noether, even though she was an important figure, and I certainly wouldn't degrade them for not knowing what she accomplished.
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billforsternz 6y ago

It's interesting that you've never heard of one of the most famous people in the world. Probably a reflection of insular American media perhaps. It doesn't work in reverse, Babe Ruth was one of the most famous people in the world even though most people around the world don't follow baseball.

aazaa 6y ago
It would be even more interesting to compile a list of the world's most famous people that most of the world's people have not heard of. My point is that a person can be very famous around the world and still not known by many people. Parochialism doesn't need to be invoked, just math.
- PlugTunin 6y ago
  10 years ago, Captain Crunch was my next door neighbor. Yes, that Captain Crunch. One time he asked me, in reference to the actor's name being mentioned in the media, "Who's Brad Pitt?". I laughed my ass off, because I decided he was the only person in LA County to have asked that question anytime recently. Incidentally, I guarantee you he has no idea who Diego Maradona is. Crunch also once asked me, 2 days after the election, "Did Obama win?". He was traveling overseas and was "out of the loop". I saved the email and laugh about it to this day. (If you don't know who Crunch is, and you're using this website, that's funny.)
Mulpze15 6y ago
Most countries on earth don't really play baseball. In those, the huge majority of people have never heard of Babe Ruth.