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To be honest I would expect if you told people "your TV will report what you're watching" they will think "wait, doesn't my cable company already know what I'm

To be honest I would expect if you told people "your TV will report what you're watching" they will think "wait, doesn't my cable company already know what I'm watching???" If you tell them it's the manufacturer this time in addition to the cable company, I'm not sure how many would freak out over the extra entity.

moduspol 6y ago
Very few. I'm not sure how you'd measure it, but there seems to be a huge disconnect between techie privacy advocates and the rest of the world. The former keeps claiming the latter just doesn't understand, or needs to be informed, but I just don't think that's realistic. I think it's pretty common knowledge that these companies are harvesting all imaginable data to serve users more / better advertisements and to keep them on the site, yet usage continues to grow despite all the scandals. I think advocates need to make more convincing claims to everyone else that they're being harmed.
- andrepd 6y ago
  In my anecdotical experience, that's not remotely true. Yes there is a disconnect between techies and regular people, in that for us it's obvious that these companies are harvesting all this data and processing it in all this ways and sharing it with all these people, but for the majority of people it's not. Even for you, do you think you fully understand how your data is being utilised and what the consequences are?
  - moduspol 6y ago
    I think we've been repeatedly shown that people don't care. From Cambridge Analytica, to what Snowden shared, to voice-based assistants (like Amazon Alexa), every instance is met with feigned surprise and then a collective shoulder shrug. > Even for you, do you think you fully understand how your data is being utilised and what the consequences are? I don't think anyone can say with certainty, but I read these threads so I'm quite aware they're collecting and monetizing every imaginable thing they can. It's difficult to articulate any measurable / real negative consequences to me, personally.

moduspol 6y ago

Very few. I'm not sure how you'd measure it, but there seems to be a huge disconnect between techie privacy advocates and the rest of the world. The former keeps claiming the latter just doesn't understand, or needs to be informed, but I just don't think that's realistic. I think it's pretty common knowledge that these companies are harvesting all imaginable data to serve users more / better advertisements and to keep them on the site, yet usage continues to grow despite all the scandals. I think advocates need to make more convincing claims to everyone else that they're being harmed.

andrepd 6y ago
In my anecdotical experience, that's not remotely true. Yes there is a disconnect between techies and regular people, in that for us it's obvious that these companies are harvesting all this data and processing it in all this ways and sharing it with all these people, but for the majority of people it's not. Even for you, do you think you fully understand how your data is being utilised and what the consequences are?
- moduspol 6y ago
  I think we've been repeatedly shown that people don't care. From Cambridge Analytica, to what Snowden shared, to voice-based assistants (like Amazon Alexa), every instance is met with feigned surprise and then a collective shoulder shrug. > Even for you, do you think you fully understand how your data is being utilised and what the consequences are? I don't think anyone can say with certainty, but I read these threads so I'm quite aware they're collecting and monetizing every imaginable thing they can. It's difficult to articulate any measurable / real negative consequences to me, personally.