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The meat of 6 billions chicks was needed to feed domestic reptiles? Assuming they weight around 30 grams it's ~1,800,000 tons of meat That's a lot of meat, I

The meat of 6 billions chicks was needed to feed domestic reptiles? Assuming they weight around 30 grams it's ~1,800,000 tons of meat That's a lot of meat, I didn't know people kept so many reptiles in their homes. p.s. 1,800,000 tons of meat could feed 180,000,000 people in Africa for a year (assuming an average in North and Central Africa of 10kg/person/year which is optimistic for some of the countries there). It's astonishing how much food we waste for silly reasons.

kgwgk 6y ago
> Assuming they weight around 30 grams it's ~1,800,000 tons of meat Check your math.
- romanoderoma 6y ago
  Yep, it's 180,000 tons. Which would still feed 18,000,000 million people in Africa for a year.
  - jononor 6y ago
    A million too much in there, I think.
    - romanoderoma 6y ago
      6,000,000,000 (chicks) * 0.03 (weight of a chick in kg at birth) = 180,000,000 kg 180,000,000 kg / 10 (average meat consumption in North and Central Africa) = 18,000,000 people that could eat for a year.
      - kgwgk 6y ago
        18,000,000 people =/= 18,000,000 million people (by the way, 30g of chicken at hatching are not 30g of meat)
        romanoderoma 6y ago
        > 18,000,000 million people Yes, of course! (Facepalm) > by the way, 30g of chicken at hatching are not 30g of meat) And of course again, it's just to prove how much actual good food it's wasted by simply not considering the alternatives 30gr of chicken at hatching become 1.5 kg of poultry in 3 months not killing them as soon as they hatch it's good, selling them to someone who's gonna eat them is even better
        kgwgk 6y ago
        > 30gr of chicken at hatching become 1.5 kg of poultry in 3 months 30gr of chicken plus many kg of corn (and, as discusesd in other comments, not all the chicken are equal when it comes to transforming corn into meat)
        notreallytrue 6y ago
        Why corn when they can eat worms and what they find on the ground roaming free? Why everything must be reduced to an industrial activity when clearly it doesn't need to? I guess "teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime" is not a good advice either, how much fish food do you need in a lifetime? And who's gonna pay for it?
  - Bjartr 6y ago
    Feeding food insecure (and worse) people around the world is very, very rarely about food quantity and is almost always about the logistics of getting food from where it exists in excess to where it is lacking. Fuel and labor costs dominate the equation.
    - romanoderoma 6y ago
      As someone who grew up in the country where my family (that was kinda poor when I was born) bred the animals we ate, I remember that businesses selling eggs also sold male chicks to the local farmers and only kept the females to make eggs We had a few chickens who layed eggs and we ate the rest of them My grandparents bought male chicks from said businesses because the ones hatching from the eggs were not enough to sustain a quite large family You had to go there to buy them, so I don't think it was very costly The logistics of killing the males and shipping the meat to companies making animal food is not more convenient (IMO) unless animal food is more profitable than human food, I don't know about it, but I hope it's not the case and it's not the main motivation behind it. The point of not killing the male chicks I imagine is to show kindness towards animals, selling them (or selling the male eggs) to someone who could make food out of it, I think should be considered equally good, if not more.
  - throwaway2245 6y ago
    why "in Africa"? Global waste meats can't in practice all be shipped to Africa; and this seems a little bit like you think Africans should eat waste products.
    - romanoderoma 6y ago
      > why "in Africa"? Because, as I wrote a couple posts before "an average (meta consumption) in North and Central Africa of 10kg/person/year which is optimistic for some of the countries there" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_meat_consumption https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_meat_cons... - Congo - 100 million people - 5.3kg/person/year - Eritrea - 110 million people - 7.7kg/person/year - Mozambique - 30 million people - 7.8kg/person/year - etc. etc. In Africa many countries don't have enough to feed their children and it's worst on average then in the rest of the World. I don't think that chicken is waste (it is in fact the main type of meat they eat in Africa), I think feeding pythons in some western home with chicken is a waste. They could feed them with mice they breed in their garages. At least that's what my friend who own reptiles do
jcampbell1 6y ago
I think the reptile thing is bullshit. My understanding is that it is like bone meal... sent to a milling house and is blended with pig feed. Pigs eat chicken bones and chicken feed is blended with cow and pork bones. No cannibalism is allowed in the US.

kgwgk 6y ago

> Assuming they weight around 30 grams it's ~1,800,000 tons of meat Check your math.

romanoderoma 6y ago
Yep, it's 180,000 tons. Which would still feed 18,000,000 million people in Africa for a year.
- jononor 6y ago
  A million too much in there, I think.
  - romanoderoma 6y ago
    6,000,000,000 (chicks) * 0.03 (weight of a chick in kg at birth) = 180,000,000 kg 180,000,000 kg / 10 (average meat consumption in North and Central Africa) = 18,000,000 people that could eat for a year.
    - kgwgk 6y ago
      18,000,000 people =/= 18,000,000 million people (by the way, 30g of chicken at hatching are not 30g of meat)
      - romanoderoma 6y ago
        > 18,000,000 million people Yes, of course! (Facepalm) > by the way, 30g of chicken at hatching are not 30g of meat) And of course again, it's just to prove how much actual good food it's wasted by simply not considering the alternatives 30gr of chicken at hatching become 1.5 kg of poultry in 3 months not killing them as soon as they hatch it's good, selling them to someone who's gonna eat them is even better
        kgwgk 6y ago
        > 30gr of chicken at hatching become 1.5 kg of poultry in 3 months 30gr of chicken plus many kg of corn (and, as discusesd in other comments, not all the chicken are equal when it comes to transforming corn into meat)
        notreallytrue 6y ago
        Why corn when they can eat worms and what they find on the ground roaming free? Why everything must be reduced to an industrial activity when clearly it doesn't need to? I guess "teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime" is not a good advice either, how much fish food do you need in a lifetime? And who's gonna pay for it?
- Bjartr 6y ago
  Feeding food insecure (and worse) people around the world is very, very rarely about food quantity and is almost always about the logistics of getting food from where it exists in excess to where it is lacking. Fuel and labor costs dominate the equation.
  - romanoderoma 6y ago
    As someone who grew up in the country where my family (that was kinda poor when I was born) bred the animals we ate, I remember that businesses selling eggs also sold male chicks to the local farmers and only kept the females to make eggs We had a few chickens who layed eggs and we ate the rest of them My grandparents bought male chicks from said businesses because the ones hatching from the eggs were not enough to sustain a quite large family You had to go there to buy them, so I don't think it was very costly The logistics of killing the males and shipping the meat to companies making animal food is not more convenient (IMO) unless animal food is more profitable than human food, I don't know about it, but I hope it's not the case and it's not the main motivation behind it. The point of not killing the male chicks I imagine is to show kindness towards animals, selling them (or selling the male eggs) to someone who could make food out of it, I think should be considered equally good, if not more.
- throwaway2245 6y ago
  why "in Africa"? Global waste meats can't in practice all be shipped to Africa; and this seems a little bit like you think Africans should eat waste products.
  - romanoderoma 6y ago
    > why "in Africa"? Because, as I wrote a couple posts before "an average (meta consumption) in North and Central Africa of 10kg/person/year which is optimistic for some of the countries there" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_meat_consumption https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_meat_cons... - Congo - 100 million people - 5.3kg/person/year - Eritrea - 110 million people - 7.7kg/person/year - Mozambique - 30 million people - 7.8kg/person/year - etc. etc. In Africa many countries don't have enough to feed their children and it's worst on average then in the rest of the World. I don't think that chicken is waste (it is in fact the main type of meat they eat in Africa), I think feeding pythons in some western home with chicken is a waste. They could feed them with mice they breed in their garages. At least that's what my friend who own reptiles do

jcampbell1 6y ago

I think the reptile thing is bullshit. My understanding is that it is like bone meal... sent to a milling house and is blended with pig feed. Pigs eat chicken bones and chicken feed is blended with cow and pork bones. No cannibalism is allowed in the US.