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I am by far not an animal rights activst and enjoy my daily portion of meat and dairy, but shreddering millions of male chicks always struck me als plain wrong,

by jansan 6y ago

I am by far not an animal rights activst and enjoy my daily portion of meat and dairy, but shreddering millions of male chicks always struck me als plain wrong, even by my carnivorian standards. This is progress that I fully support and I would not mind paying a little(!) extra to make sure that for my scrambled eggs no male chicken are shreddered.

jcampbell1 6y ago
FYI —- For every chicken you eat, one male chick is shredded. For every 300 eggs you eat, one male chick is shredded.
triangleman 6y ago
Check the sibling comment linking to a 9-day-old chicken embryo: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25211285 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25211285
bbarn 6y ago
Why is it wrong? If the end stage of that chick is an adult that costs more to feed than it's worth, causes a price increase to consumers, and it still ends up killed and processed in some way, why not just humanely kill it instantly? Industrial grinding is gross but not particularly cruel in practice. It's fast and effective and doesn't cause undue stress before killing the animal.
rsynnott 6y ago
This strikes me as an extremely weird attitude. The chicken you're eating lived for generally seven to nine weeks, probably with limited or no access to the outdoors and likely in a small cage. It was then transported a fairly long distance with no food or water on a lorry, then killed by either being hung upside down on a conveyor and dragged through electrified water, or gassed (usually with CO2, which is not painless). This all sounds much, much worse than a fairly instant death almost immediately out of coming out of the egg, to me... I suppose it's kind of _unaesthetic_, and maybe people have unrealistic impressions of what the lives of the chickens that don't get shredded are like, but I think this is all mostly a perception issue.

by jansan 6y ago

jcampbell1 6y ago

FYI —- For every chicken you eat, one male chick is shredded. For every 300 eggs you eat, one male chick is shredded.

triangleman 6y ago

Check the sibling comment linking to a 9-day-old chicken embryo: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25211285 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25211285

bbarn 6y ago

Why is it wrong? If the end stage of that chick is an adult that costs more to feed than it's worth, causes a price increase to consumers, and it still ends up killed and processed in some way, why not just humanely kill it instantly? Industrial grinding is gross but not particularly cruel in practice. It's fast and effective and doesn't cause undue stress before killing the animal.

rsynnott 6y ago

This strikes me as an extremely weird attitude. The chicken you're eating lived for generally seven to nine weeks, probably with limited or no access to the outdoors and likely in a small cage. It was then transported a fairly long distance with no food or water on a lorry, then killed by either being hung upside down on a conveyor and dragged through electrified water, or gassed (usually with CO2, which is not painless). This all sounds much, much worse than a fairly instant death almost immediately out of coming out of the egg, to me... I suppose it's kind of _unaesthetic_, and maybe people have unrealistic impressions of what the lives of the chickens that don't get shredded are like, but I think this is all mostly a perception issue.