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> Did you know it is perfectly possible for a computer to exfiltrate data without physical connections and without even having a networking card? Yes. > A few

by qayxc 6y ago

> Did you know it is perfectly possible for a computer to exfiltrate data without physical connections and without even having a networking card? Yes. > A few examples: ... All these examples require active physical interaction of the machine with the world, which simply isn't possible for a server to do. This is the environment an AGI will likely "live" in: https://bit.ly/33w7ySX https://bit.ly/33w7ySX There's no speakers, no bus oscillations to pick up (from where? by what?) and you might notice that these ominous boxes don't have anything that can pick up signals (optical, vibrations, or otherwise). Exfiltrating data from machines without touching them is completely unrelated to the capabilities of a program running in a box like this https://bit.ly/3l2hPfw https://bit.ly/3l2hPfw There are no sensors that can measure the outside and the floors these boxes are located at are heavily shielded and isolated from the outside anyway for various reasons (EM protection, physical security, etc.) so no potential target PC in sight.

vntok 6y ago
The datasheet of the A100 lists "remote intervention from an engineer's home or workstation" as a core feature of that box, using one of the dozens of hyperoptimized networking components, so... not sure what argument you are going for there. These hyperconnected boxes are definitely (hopefully?) not where an AGI will be built.
- qayxc 6y ago
  You are aware of what a symbol picture is? Also, yes, every server and super computer has network components, that still doesn't mean that the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory's Sierra and its 4 GPUs per node are accessible from the internet, so your remark is kind of meaningless.
  - vntok 6y ago
    Incorrect. Out of the three Sierra hosted at LLNL that have the "4 GPUs per node" you're talking about, two of them are in fact accessible from the public Internet. One is in Collaboration Zone CZ (Sierra/lassen), another is in Restricted Zone RZ (Sierra/rzansel). Only one of the three is classified (Sierra/shark), and even then it's still sshable when one's logged into SecureNet.

by qayxc 6y ago

vntok 6y ago

The datasheet of the A100 lists "remote intervention from an engineer's home or workstation" as a core feature of that box, using one of the dozens of hyperoptimized networking components, so... not sure what argument you are going for there. These hyperconnected boxes are definitely (hopefully?) not where an AGI will be built.

qayxc 6y ago
You are aware of what a symbol picture is? Also, yes, every server and super computer has network components, that still doesn't mean that the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory's Sierra and its 4 GPUs per node are accessible from the internet, so your remark is kind of meaningless.
- vntok 6y ago
  Incorrect. Out of the three Sierra hosted at LLNL that have the "4 GPUs per node" you're talking about, two of them are in fact accessible from the public Internet. One is in Collaboration Zone CZ (Sierra/lassen), another is in Restricted Zone RZ (Sierra/rzansel). Only one of the three is classified (Sierra/shark), and even then it's still sshable when one's logged into SecureNet.