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Some comparisons of the entry-level offerings at a few providers: - Stardust, 0.0025€/h: 1 vCPU, 1GB RAM, 10GB disk, unlimited 100Mbps network - Hetzner, 0.00

by Youden 6y ago

Some comparisons of the entry-level offerings at a few providers: - Stardust, 0.0025€/h: 1 vCPU, 1GB RAM, 10GB disk, unlimited 100Mbps network - Hetzner, 0.004€/h: 1 vCPU, 2GB RAM, 20GB disk, 20TB 10Gbps network - Azure, 0.005$/h: 1vCPU, 0.5GB RAM, 4GiB disk, per-byte network - Amazon Lightsail, ~0.005$/h: 1vCPU, 0.5GB RAM, 20GB disk, 1TB ???bps network - Amazon Lightsail, ~0.007$/h: 1vCPU, 1GB RAM, 40GB disk, 2TB ???bps network - DigitalOcean, $0.007/h: 1vCPU, 1GB RAM, 25GB disk, 1TB ???bps network - OVH, 0.008€/h: 1vCPU, 2GB RAM, 10GB disk, unlimited 100Mbps network - GCP, 0.009$/h: 0.2vCPU, 0.6GB RAM, no disk, per-byte network I suppose the big question is how well the CPU performs. Their "price/performance" graph naturally makes them look quite good but it has some issues. The biggest one is that the methodology is entirely missing but there are some smaller clear issues like comparing to Amazon's C6g instance (which costs 13x as much) instead of the price-comparable Lightsail instances.

rektide 6y ago
I haven't used it much lately but LunaNode is a smaller player but with a very solid service offering, with attachable storage &c &c. Their small m1s instances are $3.5/month or 0.0045$/hr. 1GB ram, 15GB storage, bandwidth is a little harder to understand exactly but "1TB". No affiliation but they've been around & had good low price tiers for a while now, easy to use, worked great, all with APIs for on demand. I think it's all openstack based? Maybe? Love to see. Lot of great "lowendbox" providers these days. And some not so great ones! Few offer the array of services you expect from a cloud provider (attachable storage, networking, ipv6, &c). Great to see folks who do! These days I'm mainly on by-thr-month boxes but I appreciate having some short-term load providers I respect & trust. https://www.lunanode.com/pricing https://www.lunanode.com/pricing
- rualca 6y ago
  > Their small m1s instances are $3.5/month or 0.0045$/hr. 1GB ram, 15GB storage, bandwidth is a little harder to understand exactly but "1TB". Doesn't Hetzner offer a cheaper instance with double the RAM?
  - ev1 6y ago
    Yeah but Hetzner is also 200ms away from the US.
    - heipei 6y ago
      Yeah, if they ever managed to expand to a US datacenter they would take a huge bite out of the established hosters there. But, knowing US labor costs, they simply might not be able to do so at their current prices. On the other hand, energy is probably cheaper than in Germany, so there's that...
      - rektide 6y ago
        I didn't mention this, but the provide I mentioned, LunaNode, is only available in (eastern) Canada and France. I don't know a lot about the labor markets of Canada or France, but I have very much wondered whether that plays a part in what offers LunaNode can make. Also not sure what energy costs are in eastern Canada! On a technical note, seems like ping times from LunaNode to LA are expected to be a bit over 70 ms.
        ev1 6y ago
        It's OVH.
    - Youden 6y ago
      Not quite. Nuremburg: 85ms from east coast, 156ms from west coast: https://mtr.sh/#ping/8EC5V,MHi1W/nbg.icmp.hetzner.com https://mtr.sh/#ping/8EC5V,MHi1W/nbg.icmp.hetzner.com Falkenstein: 87ms from east coast, 157ms from west coast: https://mtr.sh/#ping/8EC5V,MHi1W/fsn.icmp.hetzner.com https://mtr.sh/#ping/8EC5V,MHi1W/fsn.icmp.hetzner.com Helsinki: 107ms from east coast, 163ms from west coast https://mtr.sh/#ping/8EC5V,MHi1W/hel.icmp.hetzner.com https://mtr.sh/#ping/8EC5V,MHi1W/hel.icmp.hetzner.com
      - ev1 6y ago
        I was rounding a bit. It's 195ms from SF and 209ms from LA here, going over AS6453 Tata (horrible quality network)
tyingq 6y ago
Lightsail viciously throttles after only a small amount of cpu use. I've not seen anything obvious to compare it to, as it would only be useful for something really occasionally bursty.
justinclift 6y ago
> I suppose the big question is how well the CPU performs. While that's true, Scaleway have an (at best) mixed reputation for IP stability and poor customer support. eg: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24976899 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24976899
- rualca 6y ago
  I gave scaleway a try last year during one of their promos, and I recall they immediately double-charged my CC. Not the best first impression, and to me it was the last one as well.
  - AndrewSChapman 6y ago
    Just to add a counter point of view, I've been a Scaleway customer for about two years now. No problems with my VPS or customer service what so ever.
    - usr1106 6y ago
      I have a ticket open for 1 year. They have escalated the issue several times, but no real answer. In the meantime the ticket could be declared invalid because they have changed the implementation but they haven't even done that. Shows that their ticket process is not working. Even worse, the underlying problem is unfixed, they have not updated the kernel for C1 instances for 2.5 years and there is no supported way to run your own one. So they keep charging for an unsupported product (if customers are stupid enough to pay...). They seem to have not enough technical staff and they prioritize new development over support. They are cheap for non-critical use, but I would not trust them for anything business-relevant.
    - Hamuko 6y ago
      I waited like a year for them to process my GDPR request. Their customer service has been shitty outside of it as well.
- frafra 6y ago
  Agree. I suffered of a IPv6 outage on an existing VPS for various weeks because their network migration broke something and they did not know how to solve it (I actually figured out for them what was the problem after some days, as they looked to have no clue); after ~3 weeks they came out with a "solution": create a new VPS. I had to buy an IPv4 to connect to the VM from outside in the meanwhile, which they never reimbursed me (they offer something, then stepped back). Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22923550 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22923550
smarx007 6y ago
First time hearing about Cloud-Mercato. https://vpsranking.com/en/ https://vpsranking.com/en/ is something I have seen before and https://github.com/mgutz/vpsbench/wiki/VPS-Hosts https://github.com/mgutz/vpsbench/wiki/VPS-Hosts allows the results to be replicated.
JorgeGT 6y ago
There used to be a 1€/month VPS at Aruba Cloud (big Italian provider) with 1 vCPU, 1GB RAM, 20GB Disk, 20 TB traffic, WMWare hypervisor... it was just fantastic, but sadly they finally increased it to 2.79€+VAT this summer and I left. Plenty of datacenter locations through Europe though, if Hetzner DE and FI locations are not for you.

by Youden 6y ago

rektide 6y ago

I haven't used it much lately but LunaNode is a smaller player but with a very solid service offering, with attachable storage &c &c. Their small m1s instances are $3.5/month or 0.0045$/hr. 1GB ram, 15GB storage, bandwidth is a little harder to understand exactly but "1TB". No affiliation but they've been around & had good low price tiers for a while now, easy to use, worked great, all with APIs for on demand. I think it's all openstack based? Maybe? Love to see. Lot of great "lowendbox" providers these days. And some not so great ones! Few offer the array of services you expect from a cloud provider (attachable storage, networking, ipv6, &c). Great to see folks who do! These days I'm mainly on by-thr-month boxes but I appreciate having some short-term load providers I respect & trust. https://www.lunanode.com/pricing https://www.lunanode.com/pricing

rualca 6y ago
> Their small m1s instances are $3.5/month or 0.0045$/hr. 1GB ram, 15GB storage, bandwidth is a little harder to understand exactly but "1TB". Doesn't Hetzner offer a cheaper instance with double the RAM?
- ev1 6y ago
  Yeah but Hetzner is also 200ms away from the US.
  - heipei 6y ago
    Yeah, if they ever managed to expand to a US datacenter they would take a huge bite out of the established hosters there. But, knowing US labor costs, they simply might not be able to do so at their current prices. On the other hand, energy is probably cheaper than in Germany, so there's that...
    - rektide 6y ago
      I didn't mention this, but the provide I mentioned, LunaNode, is only available in (eastern) Canada and France. I don't know a lot about the labor markets of Canada or France, but I have very much wondered whether that plays a part in what offers LunaNode can make. Also not sure what energy costs are in eastern Canada! On a technical note, seems like ping times from LunaNode to LA are expected to be a bit over 70 ms.
      - ev1 6y ago
        It's OVH.
  - Youden 6y ago
    Not quite. Nuremburg: 85ms from east coast, 156ms from west coast: https://mtr.sh/#ping/8EC5V,MHi1W/nbg.icmp.hetzner.com https://mtr.sh/#ping/8EC5V,MHi1W/nbg.icmp.hetzner.com Falkenstein: 87ms from east coast, 157ms from west coast: https://mtr.sh/#ping/8EC5V,MHi1W/fsn.icmp.hetzner.com https://mtr.sh/#ping/8EC5V,MHi1W/fsn.icmp.hetzner.com Helsinki: 107ms from east coast, 163ms from west coast https://mtr.sh/#ping/8EC5V,MHi1W/hel.icmp.hetzner.com https://mtr.sh/#ping/8EC5V,MHi1W/hel.icmp.hetzner.com
    - ev1 6y ago
      I was rounding a bit. It's 195ms from SF and 209ms from LA here, going over AS6453 Tata (horrible quality network)

tyingq 6y ago

Lightsail viciously throttles after only a small amount of cpu use. I've not seen anything obvious to compare it to, as it would only be useful for something really occasionally bursty.

justinclift 6y ago

> I suppose the big question is how well the CPU performs. While that's true, Scaleway have an (at best) mixed reputation for IP stability and poor customer support. eg: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24976899 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24976899

rualca 6y ago
I gave scaleway a try last year during one of their promos, and I recall they immediately double-charged my CC. Not the best first impression, and to me it was the last one as well.
- AndrewSChapman 6y ago
  Just to add a counter point of view, I've been a Scaleway customer for about two years now. No problems with my VPS or customer service what so ever.
  - usr1106 6y ago
    I have a ticket open for 1 year. They have escalated the issue several times, but no real answer. In the meantime the ticket could be declared invalid because they have changed the implementation but they haven't even done that. Shows that their ticket process is not working. Even worse, the underlying problem is unfixed, they have not updated the kernel for C1 instances for 2.5 years and there is no supported way to run your own one. So they keep charging for an unsupported product (if customers are stupid enough to pay...). They seem to have not enough technical staff and they prioritize new development over support. They are cheap for non-critical use, but I would not trust them for anything business-relevant.
  - Hamuko 6y ago
    I waited like a year for them to process my GDPR request. Their customer service has been shitty outside of it as well.
frafra 6y ago
Agree. I suffered of a IPv6 outage on an existing VPS for various weeks because their network migration broke something and they did not know how to solve it (I actually figured out for them what was the problem after some days, as they looked to have no clue); after ~3 weeks they came out with a "solution": create a new VPS. I had to buy an IPv4 to connect to the VM from outside in the meanwhile, which they never reimbursed me (they offer something, then stepped back). Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22923550 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22923550

smarx007 6y ago

First time hearing about Cloud-Mercato. https://vpsranking.com/en/ https://vpsranking.com/en/ is something I have seen before and https://github.com/mgutz/vpsbench/wiki/VPS-Hosts https://github.com/mgutz/vpsbench/wiki/VPS-Hosts allows the results to be replicated.

JorgeGT 6y ago

There used to be a 1€/month VPS at Aruba Cloud (big Italian provider) with 1 vCPU, 1GB RAM, 20GB Disk, 20 TB traffic, WMWare hypervisor... it was just fantastic, but sadly they finally increased it to 2.79€+VAT this summer and I left. Plenty of datacenter locations through Europe though, if Hetzner DE and FI locations are not for you.