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Weird price /performance comparison with hetzner, their cheapest is 2.89€ scaleway is 1.8€, hetzner offers double ram and storage and 1+gbit internet (in my exp

Weird price /performance comparison with hetzner, their cheapest is 2.89€ scaleway is 1.8€, hetzner offers double ram and storage and 1+gbit internet (in my experience usually 2.5gbit)

tiernano 6y ago
Is it not per of the cpu?
- gallexme 6y ago
  Idont know, the "independent" benchmark site doesn't really work on mobile, n most links go to some kind of broken login Form But ime scaleway had slower cpu crunching Power and web requests per second than similar hetzner cloud machines, and online. net(parent company) always had routing problems to me which couldn't be resolved in timely manners (1gbit dedicated server only 100mbit arrived at my place)
  - spurgu 6y ago
    I had issues so many times with Scaleway where it took insanely long to reboot a server, seemingly getting stuck on some network provisioning, so I ended up ditching them altogether. Might use these boxes for some testing or throwaway stuff though. Currently happy with DO and Hetzner, and increasingly so with the latter. But Hetzner's lack of firewall is a bit annoying, esp. when using Docker (which interferes with iptables).
    - stustustu 6y ago
      There is a firewall right? it is just off by default.
      - stustustu 6y ago
        right I was thinking of Konsole
    - gallexme 6y ago
      > But Hetzner's lack of firewall the cloud offering doesnt has any which is controllable with the webinterface,but the machines are still firewall protected(mostly for ddos/abuse), but i would just use a firewall vm as entry point and keep the production machines in a private network u could also use the dedicated servers firewall(the Konsole for dedicated servers has firewall rules in the webinterface, u can attach vswitches to cloud instances)
- gallexme 6y ago
  it all seems a bit fishy there ads for scaleway on the linkedin page on cloud-mercato, "A week ago, Scaleway release the European VM with the lowest price. This week, place to the biggest machine with 448 CPU and 7.6 TB of RAM aka "#baremetall Ultimate Performance"." they only have 1 employee on linkedin, company location paris the website is owned by a portugese company called balladscale with 2 employees and generates $56,524 in sales (USD). unless cloud-mercato is just a buggy mess, it feels like its been put up in last minute, there bugs everywhere after logging in with a computer they dont even offer a "price score" for hetzner https://imgur.com/a/ymMUTj0 https://imgur.com/a/ymMUTj0 and dont offer a storage performance for scaleway https://imgur.com/a/3qZuxdK https://imgur.com/a/3qZuxdK they do offer to a "compute score" comparison with both in it and the hetzner machine is somehow ~3% slower, but that doesnt make up the price difference metrics on scaleway website https://imgur.com/a/o7MO8Nb https://imgur.com/a/o7MO8Nb
  - mrpetruccio 6y ago
    I'm using scaleway for more than 3 years. Moved to thm all my websites.
  - tyingq 6y ago
    Scaleway is owned by Iliad Group. It's a legit subsidiary of a legit multi billion dollar French telecom corporation. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iliad_SA https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iliad_SA Edit: Ah, the concern is Cloud Mercato, cited in the benchmark graphs.
    - gallexme 6y ago
      The fishy parts are about cloud-mercato Not scaleway
Hamuko 6y ago
Is this a tax-inclusive comparison? Hetzner's site shows me prices including VAT while Scaleway shows me prices excluding VAT.

Weird price /performance comparison with hetzner, their cheapest is 2.89€ scaleway is 1.8€, hetzner offers double ram and storage and 1+gbit internet (in my experience usually 2.5gbit)

tiernano 6y ago

Is it not per of the cpu?

gallexme 6y ago
Idont know, the "independent" benchmark site doesn't really work on mobile, n most links go to some kind of broken login Form But ime scaleway had slower cpu crunching Power and web requests per second than similar hetzner cloud machines, and online. net(parent company) always had routing problems to me which couldn't be resolved in timely manners (1gbit dedicated server only 100mbit arrived at my place)
- spurgu 6y ago
  I had issues so many times with Scaleway where it took insanely long to reboot a server, seemingly getting stuck on some network provisioning, so I ended up ditching them altogether. Might use these boxes for some testing or throwaway stuff though. Currently happy with DO and Hetzner, and increasingly so with the latter. But Hetzner's lack of firewall is a bit annoying, esp. when using Docker (which interferes with iptables).
  - stustustu 6y ago
    There is a firewall right? it is just off by default.
    - stustustu 6y ago
      right I was thinking of Konsole
  - gallexme 6y ago
    > But Hetzner's lack of firewall the cloud offering doesnt has any which is controllable with the webinterface,but the machines are still firewall protected(mostly for ddos/abuse), but i would just use a firewall vm as entry point and keep the production machines in a private network u could also use the dedicated servers firewall(the Konsole for dedicated servers has firewall rules in the webinterface, u can attach vswitches to cloud instances)
gallexme 6y ago
it all seems a bit fishy there ads for scaleway on the linkedin page on cloud-mercato, "A week ago, Scaleway release the European VM with the lowest price. This week, place to the biggest machine with 448 CPU and 7.6 TB of RAM aka "#baremetall Ultimate Performance"." they only have 1 employee on linkedin, company location paris the website is owned by a portugese company called balladscale with 2 employees and generates $56,524 in sales (USD). unless cloud-mercato is just a buggy mess, it feels like its been put up in last minute, there bugs everywhere after logging in with a computer they dont even offer a "price score" for hetzner https://imgur.com/a/ymMUTj0 https://imgur.com/a/ymMUTj0 and dont offer a storage performance for scaleway https://imgur.com/a/3qZuxdK https://imgur.com/a/3qZuxdK they do offer to a "compute score" comparison with both in it and the hetzner machine is somehow ~3% slower, but that doesnt make up the price difference metrics on scaleway website https://imgur.com/a/o7MO8Nb https://imgur.com/a/o7MO8Nb
- mrpetruccio 6y ago
  I'm using scaleway for more than 3 years. Moved to thm all my websites.
- tyingq 6y ago
  Scaleway is owned by Iliad Group. It's a legit subsidiary of a legit multi billion dollar French telecom corporation. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iliad_SA https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iliad_SA Edit: Ah, the concern is Cloud Mercato, cited in the benchmark graphs.
  - gallexme 6y ago
    The fishy parts are about cloud-mercato Not scaleway

Hamuko 6y ago

Is this a tax-inclusive comparison? Hetzner's site shows me prices including VAT while Scaleway shows me prices excluding VAT.