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To those taking the time to sell me on it, thank you. I really appreciate you all sharing why Rust is important. I value a lot of the mentioned benefits listed

To those taking the time to sell me on it, thank you. I really appreciate you all sharing why Rust is important. I value a lot of the mentioned benefits listed below, specifically wrt speed, but I'm not finding the trade-off there yet. I work with codebases and projects where the expense of time is far too high to justify its usage, especially in existing designs where there is no meaningful way to extend the codebase with Rust. Believe it or not, but there really are a lot of us out there who just do not have memory (safety, ownership, or otherwise) problems with C or C++. It sort of feels like the argument people make with static typing vs dynamic typing. It's just not a concern I have. Perhaps with enough time and coercion I'll find a reason to use it.

AlisdairO 6y ago
FWIW I expect you're getting downvoted for tone. In particular: > I just have too much experience in the industry to throw away my time and play with toys. Implication: Rust is just a toy, people who use it have too much time on their hands, and they're not experienced enough to have good judgement. IMO if you're interested in a productive conversation you'd probably have better luck if you simply omitted content like the above: it doesn't add to the conversation, and is inevitably going to raise hackles among those who disagree with you.
- andrewmcwatters 6y ago
  OK, good point. Removing it.
  - fastasucan 6y ago
    Maybe consider this as well: >It's just not a concern I have. Perhaps with enough time and coercion I'll find a reason to use it. Or just don't? Its like the validity of Rust is dependent on wether you use it or not. Try a different tone, and change a mindset from where yourself have to acknowledge/use/like something for it to be valid. If a fact based discussion about this is to be had you need to stop shoving your anecdotes and personal likings in the way. Its impossible for people to know whether Rust is right for you, and thats a pretty boring discussion by itself. I've never moved past reading the rust docs, but I understand why people react on your comments.

AlisdairO 6y ago

FWIW I expect you're getting downvoted for tone. In particular: > I just have too much experience in the industry to throw away my time and play with toys. Implication: Rust is just a toy, people who use it have too much time on their hands, and they're not experienced enough to have good judgement. IMO if you're interested in a productive conversation you'd probably have better luck if you simply omitted content like the above: it doesn't add to the conversation, and is inevitably going to raise hackles among those who disagree with you.

andrewmcwatters 6y ago
OK, good point. Removing it.
- fastasucan 6y ago
  Maybe consider this as well: >It's just not a concern I have. Perhaps with enough time and coercion I'll find a reason to use it. Or just don't? Its like the validity of Rust is dependent on wether you use it or not. Try a different tone, and change a mindset from where yourself have to acknowledge/use/like something for it to be valid. If a fact based discussion about this is to be had you need to stop shoving your anecdotes and personal likings in the way. Its impossible for people to know whether Rust is right for you, and thats a pretty boring discussion by itself. I've never moved past reading the rust docs, but I understand why people react on your comments.