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#MeToo also had that disturbing element of liberal, feminist icons being the sexual abusers all along. (Harvey Weinstein) I think the parent is using #MeToo as

#MeToo also had that disturbing element of liberal, feminist icons being the sexual abusers all along. (Harvey Weinstein) I think the parent is using #MeToo as a catch-all for intolerance of any alleged abuse of power and cancel culture in general. And as others have mentioned Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk are doing fine, so no Steve Jobs would have probably been fine in the current time.

sib 6y ago
Although Jeff has definitely moderated his approach significantly over time. Not sure OG Jeff would be as fine today as modern Jeff is.
jboog 6y ago
Who thought Harvey was a Feminist OR liberal icon? This is post-hoc revisionist history by people with political motivations. He was a small fry Dem donor compared to the real money. No idea at all where "feminist" comes from, seems to have no basis in reality.
- cyberlurker 6y ago
  He was a long time and well known Democratic donor and hosted a fundraiser at his home for Obama in 2012, which Obama attended. Admission was $36,000 a person. That’s not small fry. See below comment on feminist. I don’t think he was one, but the image of being one was knowingly cultivated.
  - jonhendry18 6y ago
    That doesn't make him a feminist icon.
danbolt 6y ago
> feminist icons Maybe you could explain a little more here? I don't think anyone had thought Weinstein was a feminist icon as far as I can tell.
- cyberlurker 6y ago
  Some people thought so because he made a lot of movies about women and supposedly helped some very famous women with their careers. It was even used in part of his public perception campaign that he deserved some credit for helping these women. https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/dec/16/harvey-weinstein-my-work-promoting-women-has-been-forgotten https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/dec/16/harvey-weinstei...
  - danbolt 6y ago
    I can see in the article you linked that Weinstein is using said claims in his public perception campaign, but I can't find any other resources about the "some people" part. Maybe I'm not in the know about the film industry, but I'm not seeing a lot of consensus that he was a paragon of feminism. Or, as far as high-profile feminists go, I wouldn't suspect him.

sib 6y ago

Although Jeff has definitely moderated his approach significantly over time. Not sure OG Jeff would be as fine today as modern Jeff is.

jboog 6y ago

Who thought Harvey was a Feminist OR liberal icon? This is post-hoc revisionist history by people with political motivations. He was a small fry Dem donor compared to the real money. No idea at all where "feminist" comes from, seems to have no basis in reality.

cyberlurker 6y ago
He was a long time and well known Democratic donor and hosted a fundraiser at his home for Obama in 2012, which Obama attended. Admission was $36,000 a person. That’s not small fry. See below comment on feminist. I don’t think he was one, but the image of being one was knowingly cultivated.
- jonhendry18 6y ago
  That doesn't make him a feminist icon.

danbolt 6y ago

> feminist icons Maybe you could explain a little more here? I don't think anyone had thought Weinstein was a feminist icon as far as I can tell.

cyberlurker 6y ago
Some people thought so because he made a lot of movies about women and supposedly helped some very famous women with their careers. It was even used in part of his public perception campaign that he deserved some credit for helping these women. https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/dec/16/harvey-weinstein-my-work-promoting-women-has-been-forgotten https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/dec/16/harvey-weinstei...
- danbolt 6y ago
  I can see in the article you linked that Weinstein is using said claims in his public perception campaign, but I can't find any other resources about the "some people" part. Maybe I'm not in the know about the film industry, but I'm not seeing a lot of consensus that he was a paragon of feminism. Or, as far as high-profile feminists go, I wouldn't suspect him.