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According to the specs, this 12KG laptop gets 28 minutes at full power on batteries >_< And it's not allowed on airplanes..

wheybags 6y ago
Why even waste weight on battery at that point. That is a built in ups, not a portable device.
- londons_explore 6y ago
  A built in UPS is really helpful for moving from room to room around a home or office. For a long time I've wanted something with all the properties of a desktop PC, but the ability to move it to another room while booted and without having to do multiple journeys. A serious enough setup I could use it for work every day, yet still with the ability to take it to the living room to do stuff while supervising the kids...
  - greggyb 6y ago
    Put the whole thing on a platform with casters and bolt the case and a UPS to the thing. With a solid metal base, you could put on a shelf for mouse and keyboard and a stand for a monitor. This seems like a pretty achievable project if you have access to a workshop.
    - wl 6y ago
      You can buy such a thing off the shelf. They're called "Workstations on Wheels" or "WoWs" and they're everywhere in medical facilities.
- djrogers 6y ago
  For a device that may be deployed in or from a vehicle or locations which may or may not have 100% stable power, a built in UPS is great. Also, that 'ups' allows one to move the device around - it is called out as a mobile SOC.
pmiller2 6y ago
Seriously? 12 kilos? That's heavier than an Osborne 1 [0], and that was considered a luggable computer rather than a laptop per se. --- [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_1
- hn_expanscape 6y ago
  The venerable Osborne 1! Now that's a trip down memory lane!
djsumdog 6y ago
> And it's not allowed on airplanes Is the battery limit just for carry-on or for checked too? Could you just check this in?
- jpalomaki 6y ago
  The limit is much tighter for checked-in luggage. You are supposed to carry the batteries with you. This is due to fire safety.
  - hn_expanscape 6y ago
    YUP. This is correct.
hn_expanscape 6y ago
This is due to regulations regarding max Watt Hour ratings for lithium batteries on planes. However we are still working on this.
- NikolaeVarius 6y ago
  Battery regulations are the weirdest goddamn thing. TSA forced me to stow batteries in checked in luggage when I literally pointed to the regulation (I had a copy on my phone just in case this exact scenario happened) that I had to bring it on carry on. Nope didn't care, I guess the battery looked scary I had to pay like 80 bucks to check a random bag with those batteries.
  - hn_expanscape 6y ago
    Agreed - I understand the reasoning but it is frustrating.
LeifCarrotson 6y ago
And with the "Out of band always visible battery gauge" you can literally watch the charge tick down by 1% every 20 seconds! I expect it's not a big deal for actual usage, with my controls engineering workstation I typically only use my batteries to transfer from the dock in my office to the dock in the shop and vice versa, and to hold the laptop in suspend when I go to and from work.

wheybags 6y ago

Why even waste weight on battery at that point. That is a built in ups, not a portable device.

londons_explore 6y ago
A built in UPS is really helpful for moving from room to room around a home or office. For a long time I've wanted something with all the properties of a desktop PC, but the ability to move it to another room while booted and without having to do multiple journeys. A serious enough setup I could use it for work every day, yet still with the ability to take it to the living room to do stuff while supervising the kids...
- greggyb 6y ago
  Put the whole thing on a platform with casters and bolt the case and a UPS to the thing. With a solid metal base, you could put on a shelf for mouse and keyboard and a stand for a monitor. This seems like a pretty achievable project if you have access to a workshop.
  - wl 6y ago
    You can buy such a thing off the shelf. They're called "Workstations on Wheels" or "WoWs" and they're everywhere in medical facilities.
djrogers 6y ago
For a device that may be deployed in or from a vehicle or locations which may or may not have 100% stable power, a built in UPS is great. Also, that 'ups' allows one to move the device around - it is called out as a mobile SOC.

pmiller2 6y ago

Seriously? 12 kilos? That's heavier than an Osborne 1 [0], and that was considered a luggable computer rather than a laptop per se. --- [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_1

hn_expanscape 6y ago
The venerable Osborne 1! Now that's a trip down memory lane!

djsumdog 6y ago

> And it's not allowed on airplanes Is the battery limit just for carry-on or for checked too? Could you just check this in?

jpalomaki 6y ago
The limit is much tighter for checked-in luggage. You are supposed to carry the batteries with you. This is due to fire safety.
- hn_expanscape 6y ago
  YUP. This is correct.

hn_expanscape 6y ago

This is due to regulations regarding max Watt Hour ratings for lithium batteries on planes. However we are still working on this.

NikolaeVarius 6y ago
Battery regulations are the weirdest goddamn thing. TSA forced me to stow batteries in checked in luggage when I literally pointed to the regulation (I had a copy on my phone just in case this exact scenario happened) that I had to bring it on carry on. Nope didn't care, I guess the battery looked scary I had to pay like 80 bucks to check a random bag with those batteries.
- hn_expanscape 6y ago
  Agreed - I understand the reasoning but it is frustrating.

LeifCarrotson 6y ago

And with the "Out of band always visible battery gauge" you can literally watch the charge tick down by 1% every 20 seconds! I expect it's not a big deal for actual usage, with my controls engineering workstation I typically only use my batteries to transfer from the dock in my office to the dock in the shop and vice versa, and to hold the laptop in suspend when I go to and from work.