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> "A laptop with exactly zero compromises" I mean the size, weight, awkwardness and small trackpad all seem like compromises to me. I'd suspect the battery lif
by bitecode 6y ago
> "A laptop with exactly zero compromises"
I mean the size, weight, awkwardness and small trackpad all seem like compromises to me. I'd suspect the battery life too. And some of the screens aren't placed in the most practical of locations.
That said it's a pretty impressive prototype.
- cyberpunk 6y agoAccording to the specs, this 12KG laptop gets 28 minutes at full power on batteries >_< And it's not allowed on airplanes..
- wheybags 6y agoWhy even waste weight on battery at that point. That is a built in ups, not a portable device.
- londons_explore 6y agoA built in UPS is really helpful for moving from room to room around a home or office. For a long time I've wanted something with all the properties of a desktop PC, but the ability to move it to another room while booted and without having to do multiple journeys. A serious enough setup I could use it for work every day, yet still with the ability to take it to the living room to do stuff while supervising the kids...
- greggyb 6y agoPut the whole thing on a platform with casters and bolt the case and a UPS to the thing. With a solid metal base, you could put on a shelf for mouse and keyboard and a stand for a monitor. This seems like a pretty achievable project if you have access to a workshop.
- wl 6y agoYou can buy such a thing off the shelf. They're called "Workstations on Wheels" or "WoWs" and they're everywhere in medical facilities.
- djrogers 6y agoFor a device that may be deployed in or from a vehicle or locations which may or may not have 100% stable power, a built in UPS is great. Also, that 'ups' allows one to move the device around - it is called out as a mobile SOC.
- pmiller2 6y agoSeriously? 12 kilos? That's heavier than an Osborne 1 [0], and that was considered a luggable computer rather than a laptop per se. --- [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_1
- hn_expanscape 6y agoThe venerable Osborne 1! Now that's a trip down memory lane!
- djsumdog 6y ago> And it's not allowed on airplanes Is the battery limit just for carry-on or for checked too? Could you just check this in?
- jpalomaki 6y agoThe limit is much tighter for checked-in luggage. You are supposed to carry the batteries with you. This is due to fire safety.
- hn_expanscape 6y agoYUP. This is correct.
- hn_expanscape 6y agoThis is due to regulations regarding max Watt Hour ratings for lithium batteries on planes. However we are still working on this.
- NikolaeVarius 6y agoBattery regulations are the weirdest goddamn thing. TSA forced me to stow batteries in checked in luggage when I literally pointed to the regulation (I had a copy on my phone just in case this exact scenario happened) that I had to bring it on carry on. Nope didn't care, I guess the battery looked scary I had to pay like 80 bucks to check a random bag with those batteries.
- hn_expanscape 6y agoAgreed - I understand the reasoning but it is frustrating.
- LeifCarrotson 6y agoAnd with the "Out of band always visible battery gauge" you can literally watch the charge tick down by 1% every 20 seconds! I expect it's not a big deal for actual usage, with my controls engineering workstation I typically only use my batteries to transfer from the dock in my office to the dock in the shop and vice versa, and to hold the laptop in suspend when I go to and from work.
- xwdv 6y agoZero compromise doesn’t mean you get what you want. Actually the opposite sometimes.
- bena 6y agoYes it does. That's why "zero compromise" is usually a losing proposition, because there are often requirements that conflict with each other. You can't have 7 screens, long battery life, and have it be light weight. That would be zero compromises. It's basically the old adage: Fast, cheap, good - pick two. They've sacrificed any kind of portability for more screens.
- hn_expanscape 6y agoBelieve it or not there are alternatives to our Aurora 7 prototype but those are too large to fit in standard backpack. They usually consist of monitors bolted on to a standard desktop chassis and don't feature integrated batteries. The Aurora 7 folds down then fits into a backpack.
- bena 6y agoBelieve it or not, a 25 pound laptop you can't bring on an airplane isn't what anyone would call portable. If that's portable, then so is any number of small PCs that could fit in a backpack.
- dragonwriter 6y ago
- ben174 6y agoI prefer the version with the printer: https://i.imgur.com/RCgJg6F.gif https://i.imgur.com/RCgJg6F.gif
- thomasqbrady 6y agoWhat is that from?
- bazzargh 6y agoI didn't recognize the movie but the two onlookers are John Turturro and Mel Smith - which pegs it as Brain Donors (1992) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103872/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103872/
- Yetanfou 6y agoOnce upon a previous century I tested a laptop with a built-in printer for an article I wrote for a magazine. Paper was fed through a slit underneath the keyboard, ink was dribbled on it from a microscopically small ink cartridge and in only half a minute it worked its way through a single A4 sheet. It was made by Canon under the name Notejet [1]. It did not come with a built-in desk though. [1] http://laptop.pics/canon-notejet/ http://laptop.pics/canon-notejet/
- jodrellblank 6y agoNot built-in, but https://youtu.be/2nR3dDVgAVQ?t=51 https://youtu.be/2nR3dDVgAVQ?t=51 is someone using a HP 200LX MS-DOS based palmtop and battery powered portable battery powered small Pentax printer, in 2015.
- hn_expanscape 6y agoThanks. The palm rest screen is actually really useful in day to day operation.
- Jean-Philipe 6y agoI thought they meant that as a joke?