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I will concede Google Drive is garbage. But even in that garbage product there aren't as many glaring bugs that have been around forever. The worst example: yo

I will concede Google Drive is garbage. But even in that garbage product there aren't as many glaring bugs that have been around forever. The worst example: you can't use the browser's back button in the MS 365 mail client! Instead of using the back button like any other web app, you have to hit ESC to drop from message detail back to the inbox or folder. The back button instead goes to the next message in the queue. MS 365 is full of mind-boggling UX decisions on top of annoying bugs that have been around for years.

jimnotgym 6y ago
But the desktop apps are best in class, Word and Excel in particular.
- maxerickson 6y ago
  What class is Word best in? I use it a quite a lot and think it is okay, but it has all sorts of problems and behaviors that don't make a lot of sense.
  - Isthatablackgsd 6y ago
    I used it daily for my work. I prefer Word due to their mail merge for creating certifications (sometime, I have to make 150 certs and mail merge made it so easy). Also, I use it for form creations, Word's table structure is superior and flexible than LibreOffice Writer and Apple Pages. Yea, it does have their quirks. I am aware of those and I know how to work around it or with it. Microsoft Word been around more than 20 years and it have legacy codes in Word to ensure it works with older format and few other oddities.
  - jimnotgym 6y ago
    Track changes. It is an industry standard for legal documents.
    - azalemeth 6y ago
      `vimdiff new.tex old.tex` is _infinitely_ faster, easier, and so on. Using git provides a far better backup and restore functionality, with searchable history, and multiple branching versions. I've met exactly one lawyer (a barrister) who uses tex and loves it -- it's particularly good at making trial bundles with complicated paginations and cross references -- but he does have the advantage of being an IP barrister with a PhD in particle physics...
      - throwaheyy 6y ago
        But I don't want or care to go to the trouble of setting up tex, git, vim or whatever else. Microsoft has solved that problem for me.
petre 6y ago
> The back button instead goes to the next message in the queue. That must be a feature: one could use the back button to open many mails and even reply to them in order to game the employee 'evaluation' metrics.

jimnotgym 6y ago

But the desktop apps are best in class, Word and Excel in particular.

maxerickson 6y ago
What class is Word best in? I use it a quite a lot and think it is okay, but it has all sorts of problems and behaviors that don't make a lot of sense.
- Isthatablackgsd 6y ago
  I used it daily for my work. I prefer Word due to their mail merge for creating certifications (sometime, I have to make 150 certs and mail merge made it so easy). Also, I use it for form creations, Word's table structure is superior and flexible than LibreOffice Writer and Apple Pages. Yea, it does have their quirks. I am aware of those and I know how to work around it or with it. Microsoft Word been around more than 20 years and it have legacy codes in Word to ensure it works with older format and few other oddities.
- jimnotgym 6y ago
  Track changes. It is an industry standard for legal documents.
  - azalemeth 6y ago
    `vimdiff new.tex old.tex` is _infinitely_ faster, easier, and so on. Using git provides a far better backup and restore functionality, with searchable history, and multiple branching versions. I've met exactly one lawyer (a barrister) who uses tex and loves it -- it's particularly good at making trial bundles with complicated paginations and cross references -- but he does have the advantage of being an IP barrister with a PhD in particle physics...
    - throwaheyy 6y ago
      But I don't want or care to go to the trouble of setting up tex, git, vim or whatever else. Microsoft has solved that problem for me.

petre 6y ago

> The back button instead goes to the next message in the queue. That must be a feature: one could use the back button to open many mails and even reply to them in order to game the employee 'evaluation' metrics.