> Once you get to 50-100km away from the city center, then your options look very bleak. I'd say that at 100 km you're no longer talking about that city's publ

> Once you get to 50-100km away from the city center, then your options look very bleak. I'd say that at 100 km you're no longer talking about that city's public transit anymore (for a city this size). At 50 km I'd maybe agree with you. That's also a bit of what I meant to indicate with the Swiss trains comment – the (heavy rail) train services indeed aren't great around Oslo. > I live in Copenhagen myself, but I grew up 100km outside of Copenhagen. Using a car to go back and forth from there to Copenhagen takes approximately 1 hour each way. Using public transportation all the way takes closer to 2 hours. Using a combination takes 1h 30min on a good day. But then again, in fairness, at 100 km outside of Copenhagen you're halfway to Germany! It's getting to be a stretch for a commute anyway, is it not? > Banning cars from cities seems to only think of people who lives inside it and not how difficult it will be for a lot of people already "taxed" with hour long commutes because of stupidly expensive housing combined with centralization of workplaces. Well, in return, those people do get vastly cheaper housing (I'm well aware that suburban housing around Oslo and Copenhagen is still very very expensive, but once you start hitting the 100 km range that certainly stops being the case). Adapting cities to be car-friendly make them sprawly, congested or pedestrian-unfriendly. Or all three.