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AIM AV
- dangoldin 15y ago"note: this app is for internal AOL use only" I wonder if this is some brilliant marketing ploy.
- vnorby 15y agoIt's definitely a ploy. If they wanted to test it with just their employees, they would have put it behind their firewall.
- alex1 15y agoBack in the late 90's and early 00's, I remember discovering a bunch of "internal" AOL sites. Even after posting about them on forums, AOL didn't seem to care much (unless they could be used to steal accounts).
- joelandren 15y agoAnd would have forgone the splash page.
- mgkimsal 15y agounless they mean only for use on AOL's network, and not cross-network like with gtalk or msn chat. It's worded just awkwardly enough that I could see non-techies making that wording mistake.
- terinjokes 15y agowhat's up with the "note: this app is for internal AOL use only" tag?
- truebosko 15y agoTechCrunch posted about it here: http://techcrunch.com/2011/05/05/aol-aim-av-chat/ http://techcrunch.com/2011/05/05/aol-aim-av-chat/ Looks like AOL is still internally testing it, but TC decided to spill the beans.
- dotBen 15y agoOr someone made an elaborate marketing decision to not have the email sent to TechCrunch team so that then someone internally at aol would leak it to TechCrunch and in turn TechCrunch would be excited to leak it to the public. Thus making everyone seem special and 'in the know' and thus greater chance of it being shared and talked about. Like here.
- hallowtech 15y agoSometimes I look at websites with cloud backgrounds and think they're moving. This time I was right!
- jtreminio 15y agohttp://cheervine.com/ http://cheervine.com/
- riffic 15y agoIf this is done right AOL would adopt a standard that would allow interoperability. The way its looking right now in the voice/video messaging scene is we're gonna have communication islands and the only way to reach someone is to run five different service's clients.
- saucerful 15y agoIsn't this what XMPP (the protocol google uses for gchat) is all about, at least for text? (c.f. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensible_Messaging_and_Presence_Protocol#Message_delivery_scenario http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensible_Messaging_and_Presen... ) Is A/V over XMPP standardized?
- metajack 15y agoYes. Google did the original work for Jingle, but passed it to the XSF for standardization. That work has been done for some time and implementations have been appearing in various places. Even so, I suspect it will be a long time before Skype, Apple, and everyone else does anything but try to set their own standards.
- hamidp 15y agoYes, there is a XMPP standard for AV but no one implements it -- not even Google who came up with it.
- jallmann 15y agoThis works over Flash, which means you're confined to RTMP... while it's possible to tunnel a more standard protocol on top of that and open up the other end to third-party clients, (or simply gateway to $protocol), I doubt they've thought that far out yet. There are pragmatic reasons for the fragmentation we're seeing, although those don't necessarily correspond to the customer's favored outcome. Federation reduces the stickiness coefficient of your product, and forces you to design your application around a protocol that may not fit your needs ideally, cf. Skype's supernode architecture.
- geuis 15y agoThe fellow in the middle of the photo is Frederick Van Johnson, host of the great photography podcast This Week in Photo.
- staunch 15y agoThis is presumably using Adobe's new RTMFP[1] which means it's all P2P. Same way Chat Roulette works. It's extremely easy to create this kind of thing now (as in hours of work for a simple version). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Time_Media_Flow_Protocol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Time_Media_Flow_Protocol
- bravura 15y agoAre there any good open-source implementations?
- windsurfer 15y agoOf what? Flash? RTMP? 4-way video chat? If you want all that in a single package, no.
- jallmann 15y agoassuming you mean RTMFP: https://github.com/OpenRTMFP/Cumulus https://github.com/OpenRTMFP/Cumulus
- Meai 15y agoLast time I checked, red5 was trying to reverse engineer the protocol. Not sure how far they are.
- BasilAwad 15y agoWhat if I want to record. Help please?
- iag 15y agoWow, I'd use this over skype now.
- ChrisArchitect 15y agore: skype/facetime - if this RTMFP thing picks up, seems like there could be tons of services like this soon. no need for facekype. In some ways, this has been around for a bit, just maybe not a cleanly/easy to develop. tinychat anyone?
- MatthewB 15y agoThis is very cool. Facetime competition?
- davidedicillo 15y ago<sarcasm>Definitely, I'm sure Flash for mobile device will be so much better very soon.</sarcasm>
- younata 15y agohasn't iChat had this for several years now?
- briteside 15y agoThat screenshot is just begging for a caption contest
- Chico 15y agoHm, some competition for http://www.faceflow.com http://www.faceflow.com and tinychat.com :)