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Unfortunately not really, as 4-AcO-DMT would definitely fall under the Federal Analogue Act. And if you order it in the mail (as is common with "research chemic

by 3131s 6y ago

Unfortunately not really, as 4-AcO-DMT would definitely fall under the Federal Analogue Act. And if you order it in the mail (as is common with "research chemicals") they'll tack on charges for mail fraud and trafficking across state lines.

proverbialbunny 6y ago
That's what I meant by legal, unscheduled. Technically they don't go after buyers for unscheduled drugs. If you buy in bulk large enough that they suspect you're a seller, but don't have any reports of you being a seller they'll give you a love letter which is, "We confiscated your package. Don't do it again." and that's the max penalty for buying 4-aco in the US. If a law is unenforced in the US, it is legal. To prove it is enforced if they ever want to go after sellers, they have to capture multiple sellers at once in bulk to prove there is no bias. The legal system is interesting in the US, isn't it? Also, where I live (Oakland) it's totally outright legalized, so no problems.
- soulofmischief 6y ago
  Oakland is one thing, but unscheduled doesn't mean much. That's the point of the federal analogue act and I remember exactly when it started being applied to tryptamine-based research chemicals around 2010. There are too many subtle chemical variations to take the time to put them all on the books directly, they are covered with the act. We can talk theory and everything, but I've seen people get arrested and charged for both possession and procurement, so.
- 3131s 6y ago
  Yeah, I've gotten love letters too. But that doesn't change the reality of what I said! It's not legal, if you order enough they will charge you under the Federal Analogue Act... or even on a small order they'll make up whatever story they want and raid you if they suspect you're up to something else more lucrative.

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Unfortunately not really, as 4-AcO-DMT would definitely fall under the Federal Analogue Act. And if you order it in the mail (as is common with "research chemic

by 3131s 6y ago

proverbialbunny 6y ago
That's what I meant by legal, unscheduled. Technically they don't go after buyers for unscheduled drugs. If you buy in bulk large enough that they suspect you're a seller, but don't have any reports of you being a seller they'll give you a love letter which is, "We confiscated your package. Don't do it again." and that's the max penalty for buying 4-aco in the US. If a law is unenforced in the US, it is legal. To prove it is enforced if they ever want to go after sellers, they have to capture multiple sellers at once in bulk to prove there is no bias. The legal system is interesting in the US, isn't it? Also, where I live (Oakland) it's totally outright legalized, so no problems.
- soulofmischief 6y ago
  Oakland is one thing, but unscheduled doesn't mean much. That's the point of the federal analogue act and I remember exactly when it started being applied to tryptamine-based research chemicals around 2010. There are too many subtle chemical variations to take the time to put them all on the books directly, they are covered with the act. We can talk theory and everything, but I've seen people get arrested and charged for both possession and procurement, so.
- 3131s 6y ago
  Yeah, I've gotten love letters too. But that doesn't change the reality of what I said! It's not legal, if you order enough they will charge you under the Federal Analogue Act... or even on a small order they'll make up whatever story they want and raid you if they suspect you're up to something else more lucrative.