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My experience after pitching to an old school VC/angel
As an FYI, I am no where located near the valley/bay area. I live in an urban city in Arizona where there's only one well known/reputable VC in town, not a lot of angel investors in here. If you are a tech startup in AZ, I guess you know what I am talking about. The culture is very different to those in SV.
I am about to launch my startup and currently is in the seed stage and have a working prototype done. My team just did a pitch an hour ago to this guy, had no high hopes as we've heard various kind of comments about him. We pitched the whole idea, first question asked was about the revenue source, second sentence that came out of his mouth is "do you have a business plan written yet"?
Just after this sentence was launched, I knew exactly that this is the wrong person to talk to. Which top VC's/angels in SV asks for a business plan during a seed stage of your startup (if there is one please let me know, then maybe my perception is wrong)? I get his point that we need to do more market analysis/research on the app, however to actually have a solid well written business plan at this stage is just ridiculous.
With regards to market research, I asked him if we created a website for user to signup, remind them when the product is launched(using service such as launchrock) and showed him we have 500k users signed up, would he be convinced enough in the market of our app? Then he sort of gives an ambiguous answer to it. Again, a ridiculous thought from my point of view. Almost every startup nowadays do use this strategy. I guess he just doesn't notice that.
Point to be made here is that, doing a startup is hard, but it's even harder when you're outside the valley. I know it's all about your effort of you to get connected/network, so you can reach Paul Graham/Dave McClure/Yuri Miler, etc. Some say that if you can't get those connections then you lose already. I don't have any connections with people in SV who can introduce me out to these great angels/VC's and that adds another challenge for me. There is a startup meetup here, but only 5-10 people is in the group and mostly they are just talking about side projects that they have, no one rarely talks about angels/VC's (another dead end for making connections to SV). Was planning to just put up my startup at angel.co and see what happens, don't know whether it's the right time or not. One concern is that most of those investors doesn't invest outside of SV. Would be way much easier if I am at SV, so to new startups out there in SV, be grateful for yourself as you're already one step ahead of us who are outside of SV.
Yet, this is just another confession from a startup founder experience. Feel free to comment
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- mg1313 15y ago:))...I think I know you from somewhere :). So, you did talk to a VC..is he from SV or from Arizona?
- aherlambang 15y agoyes and I think I know you from somewhere =). sent you a mail buddy
- gettinstarted 15y agoIt's great that you got a first pitch out of the way. Congratz to that! First off, startups outside SV/SF get funded...don't get it twisted. But, boo-who'ing over the fact that you can't get face-to-face with someone connected isn't going to get you anywhere. So, you are doing it wrong. There may not be lots of events in your city, so go to them. Period. If you can't find a way to make it happen, you probably don't have what it takes anyway. When you get there, network the hell out of them. Pitch people on the spot (don't suck!) and have a working product demo with you. Secondly, when an investor asks for a business plan, they probably aren't from the SF school of investment thought. And while you retort mentioning things you could do to show traction should have been more relevant to him than they were, you really shouldn't have been pitching without traction. It sounds like your project is consumer facing, users get some value, but don't pay (ie maybe geo/social/photo/blah blah). If that's the case, your product should have a small, but growing, core group of fanatic users, before smart money will pay you the time of day. Once you have that, go to angellist. It doesn't matter where in the world you live...if you have a good product in a good market and traction, you'll get meetings (though it's still a numbers game). Listen, it's supposed to be hard-otherwise, everyone would do it.
- suking 15y agoThere's a few firms that invest in AZ. Highway 12, Flywheel, GRP... to name a few. Sounds like you didn't do enough research on this person imo.