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As usual, I am not surprised to see this thread devolve into name calling and strawmanish idealist arguments.
by xrisk 6y ago
As usual, I am not surprised to see this thread devolve into name calling and strawmanish idealist arguments.
- janosett 6y agoWhile I would love quality discussion about politically charged issues like this, it seems like we can't manage to stay respectful. I think it might just be natural to follow suit with the divisive conversations happening in other forums. What draws me to HN are the thoughtful, genuine discussions about topics around technology, science, and business. While not perfect, it often seems to dodge the political divisiveness and focus on common interest. I hope we can find a way to keep that spirit of camaraderie and shared interest.
- rbanffy 6y agoAll things considered, it remained surprisingly respectful. Some islands of name calling, but, overall, pretty good discussion on the subject.
- artificialLimbs 6y agoPeople who have informed themselves about communism and the reasons against its tenants are violently opposed to communism, and rightfully so imo.
- boomboomsubban 6y agoThe article itself is basically the same thing. It seems almost entirely fixed on describing Engels as a rich womanizer who secretly adored Christianity. It has a section about his life in Manchester that doesn't mention his life changing experience observing the slums and factories, and contains lines like > “The middle orders must increasingly disappear until the world is divided into millionaires and paupers, into large landowners and poor farm labourers,” Engels wrote, in terms that might well have been appropriated by a Democratic presidential hopeful in 2020. edit I looked up the quote, and it is Engels describing what he sees as the natural conclusion of the Industrial Revolution unless a total change of societal conditions occurred. Not something he was hoping happened or criticism of Britain enriching merchants as the article suggests.