You hit the nail on the head. Java EE programming is consolidating into Spring programming. I think it is because Spring gives you a layer on top of the app ser

You hit the nail on the head. Java EE programming is consolidating into Spring programming. I think it is because Spring gives you a layer on top of the app servers that finally achieves the write once run anywhere as long as you stick with Spring. That part is good but it is a shame that you need so much stuff to achieve this. I always cringe when maven pulls down all spring jars (20 or 30 ???)