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Same behavior from Intel, using MBA tricks instead of innovating. [1] Intel "'Forgot' to Mention 28-Core, 5-GHz CPU Demo Was Overclocked to such an extreme tha
by sounds 6y ago
Same behavior from Intel, using MBA tricks instead of innovating.
[1] Intel "'Forgot' to Mention 28-Core, 5-GHz CPU Demo Was Overclocked to such an extreme that it required a one-horsepower industrial water chiller" https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-28-core-cpu-5ghz,37244.html https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-28-core-cpu-5ghz,372...
[2] Intel decides Cinebench "which has a really niche usefulness" in their Tiger Lake presentation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFHBgb9SY1Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFHBgb9SY1Y
[3] Intel allegedly paid manufacturers "rebates" to limit their purchases of AMD, ended up paying $1.25B to AMD and $1.45B more to the EU for the antitrust practices. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Micro_Devices,_Inc._v._Intel_Corp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Micro_Devices,_Inc._v....
From the article:
Intel’s explanation for why AMD CPUs lose so much performance
on battery is that the systems wait for 7-10 seconds before
engaging turbo mode
... the settings that control the amount of time before turbo
modes engage and the overall performance delta between AC and
DC power are settings that the OEM controls, not AMD.
... Intel’s five comparison systems for itself came from MSI,
Lenovo, Intel itself (in the form of a laptop kit), and two
from HP. Intel is drawing on a much wider range of manufacturers
for its own systems. I don’t know anything about the NUC laptop
kit - haven't had the opportunity to test one - but I would have
preferred the fifth system be a standard commercial comparison,
and the AMD systems should have been drawn from an equally diverse
pool of hardware as the Intel ones were. There are four
manufacturers represented for Intel, and two for AMD.
...
When Intel gave its presentation, it made a point of calling
out the fact that Cinebench R20 doesn’t show the same behavior
as the other benchmarks it had chosen to highlight.
The "oddly" is straight-up FUD. Cinebench R23 also doesn’t
show the 30-48 percent pattern of decline Intel claims. Neither
does Corona Render. Neither does Handbrake. Neither does
JetStream 2. Neither does Blender 2.90. Neither does the
Blender 1.0Beta2 benchmark (not shown, but I ran it).
- leoc 6y agoThere are also some recent suspicions that Intel may be playing games with the Math Kernel Library (again?): https://level1techs.com/video/intel-throttling-mkl-performance-amd https://level1techs.com/video/intel-throttling-mkl-performan... . Intel's "Chief Performance Strategist" Ryan Shrout is not universally well-esteemed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw0ZzA9wTFE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw0ZzA9wTFE .
- ksec 6y agoWhen you listen to AMD, or at least the new AMD under Dr Lisa Su, it is all about their drives, passion, innovation and trying to succeed while building a brand that enthusiast loves and working hard to crack the Enterprise Market. Not a single mention of Intel. When you listen to Intel, whether it was tech forum, Investor meeting or marketing presentation. They seems to talk more about AMD than their own offering. Exec loves these FUD. Business purchase made up to 50% of the PC market. HyperScaler have long lead time and planning of new instances which makes Intel's future Roadmap, promise, marketing and FUD works better. Delaying the purchase of AMD at all cost. As I have been saying, Intel's marketing machines has been working in full force since last year. From Leaks ( notice the amount of Intel leaks coming out are two to three times the volume over the past 12 months ? ), PR, Investor notes to sales partner's promises, Channel Clearing discount etc. It is the same playbook as they did in Athlon 64 era, and credit where credit is due they are exceptionally good at it.
- rasz 6y ago>ended up paying ... $1.45B more to the EU for the antitrust practices You wish. Like Microsoft (also never paid the ~$1B fine) they are still trying to weasel their way out of this one. https://www.pcgamer.com/intel-is-still-fighting-a-10-year-old-euro106-billion-antitrust-fine-for-cpu-rebates/ https://www.pcgamer.com/intel-is-still-fighting-a-10-year-ol...
- sounds 6y agoThanks, I missed that. Good to know.