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I'd be really surprised if the SFWA hadn't thought of that before jumping in. https://www.sfwa.org/2020/11/18/disney-must-pay/ https://www.sfwa.org/2020/11/18/

I'd be really surprised if the SFWA hadn't thought of that before jumping in. https://www.sfwa.org/2020/11/18/disney-must-pay/ https://www.sfwa.org/2020/11/18/disney-must-pay/

gamblor956 6y ago
Yes, I've read that and as a member of the SFWA I'm glad they're standing up for more clarity on this. The SFWA's job is to advocate for their members. ADF is claiming that he is owed royalties (and it's possible he has a contract saying that he is), so they're going to advocate for him. It's what they do. EDIT: Deleted my original second paragraph. Disney is not claiming that they acquired the rights to the novelizations without the corresponding liabilities. The SFWA claimed that on their own. Disney hasn't actually made a formal response yet on this other than to say that they want to work this out with ADF. Presumably, that is because they are still trying to find a copy of the now 30+ year old WFH agreement in the Fox warehouses in Century City. The SFWA president is clearly not a lawyer and doesn't understand how M&A works in the U.S. What they are suggesting about what Disney was trying to do isn't legally possible.
- roywiggins 6y ago
  Why would Disney even be asserting that if they could just say "it's a work for hire, go away"? If they're taking the time to come up with this theory then they are admitting that 20th Century Fox owed him royalties.
  - gamblor956 6y ago
    I haven't actually been able to find an actual release from Disney where they claim they acquired the rights to the novelization IP but not the liabilities. That seems to have come from the SFWA. (https://www.theverge.com/2020/11/19/21578621/disney-alan-dean-foster-royalties-copyright-law https://www.theverge.com/2020/11/19/21578621/disney-alan-dea... confirming this.)
  - dllthomas 6y ago
    It could be one part of a three-dog argument.
    - dllthomas 6y ago
      Err, did that from memory and was wrong. "Four dog defense": http://acronymrequired.com/2011/10/the-four-dog-defense.html http://acronymrequired.com/2011/10/the-four-dog-defense.html

I'd be really surprised if the SFWA hadn't thought of that before jumping in. https://www.sfwa.org/2020/11/18/disney-must-pay/ https://www.sfwa.org/2020/11/18/disney-must-pay/

gamblor956 6y ago

Yes, I've read that and as a member of the SFWA I'm glad they're standing up for more clarity on this. The SFWA's job is to advocate for their members. ADF is claiming that he is owed royalties (and it's possible he has a contract saying that he is), so they're going to advocate for him. It's what they do. EDIT: Deleted my original second paragraph. Disney is not claiming that they acquired the rights to the novelizations without the corresponding liabilities. The SFWA claimed that on their own. Disney hasn't actually made a formal response yet on this other than to say that they want to work this out with ADF. Presumably, that is because they are still trying to find a copy of the now 30+ year old WFH agreement in the Fox warehouses in Century City. The SFWA president is clearly not a lawyer and doesn't understand how M&A works in the U.S. What they are suggesting about what Disney was trying to do isn't legally possible.

roywiggins 6y ago
Why would Disney even be asserting that if they could just say "it's a work for hire, go away"? If they're taking the time to come up with this theory then they are admitting that 20th Century Fox owed him royalties.
- gamblor956 6y ago
  I haven't actually been able to find an actual release from Disney where they claim they acquired the rights to the novelization IP but not the liabilities. That seems to have come from the SFWA. (https://www.theverge.com/2020/11/19/21578621/disney-alan-dean-foster-royalties-copyright-law https://www.theverge.com/2020/11/19/21578621/disney-alan-dea... confirming this.)
- dllthomas 6y ago
  It could be one part of a three-dog argument.
  - dllthomas 6y ago
    Err, did that from memory and was wrong. "Four dog defense": http://acronymrequired.com/2011/10/the-four-dog-defense.html http://acronymrequired.com/2011/10/the-four-dog-defense.html