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> If you don't send tens of thousands of identical mails per day you should be fine. That's just 100% incorrect. All that needs to happen for you to start rece

> If you don't send tens of thousands of identical mails per day you should be fine. That's just 100% incorrect. All that needs to happen for you to start receiving problems is for the SPAM Screening Monoculture of Brightworks, Symantec, etc. to latch on to your domain and/or IP and then you're out of the inbox on all major email address providers. Note: users on the major services using "Junk" as their delete button is a signal to these screening companies.

capableweb 6y ago
> That's just 100% incorrect Is it? Does your knowledge about this come from personal experience? Did you start using your own email server then migrated to a hosted one? I've been a part of companies (both couple of years old companies, and newly started companies) who used our own email server running on the same hardware as the application servers were running on, and never had issues with emails ending up in spam. We made sure we had all the SPF/DKIM and the rest setup correctly, and only had delivery issues when we issues with the server itself or the receiving email server.
- CodeWriter23 6y ago
  My knowledge of this comes from my best friend, and engineer at a national ISP who specifically works on their carrier-grade email system, and has specifically helped me troubleshoot deliverability issues on several occasions.
  - CodeWriter23 6y ago
    Additionally he has told me they summarily discard 93% of all incoming messages based on spam scoring. That’s discarded even before hitting the junk folder.
ThePhysicist 6y ago
Meh, really depends on how many mails you send every day. In general, you should have proper SPF, DKIM and DMARC entries in your DNS config, DMARC especially will make it easy to learn if anyone classifies your mails as SPAM. Of course the transactional mailing providers want to scare you into thinking it's not possible to just deliver mail yourself. That might be true if you operate at a large scale, but for most B2B SaaS apps it's completely fine to send the mails yourself.
- CodeWriter23 6y ago
  I have no connection to any company selling email services. Read my comments above for my sources.
ykevinator 6y ago
Op is correct if you have dns records set

capableweb 6y ago

> That's just 100% incorrect Is it? Does your knowledge about this come from personal experience? Did you start using your own email server then migrated to a hosted one? I've been a part of companies (both couple of years old companies, and newly started companies) who used our own email server running on the same hardware as the application servers were running on, and never had issues with emails ending up in spam. We made sure we had all the SPF/DKIM and the rest setup correctly, and only had delivery issues when we issues with the server itself or the receiving email server.

CodeWriter23 6y ago
My knowledge of this comes from my best friend, and engineer at a national ISP who specifically works on their carrier-grade email system, and has specifically helped me troubleshoot deliverability issues on several occasions.
- CodeWriter23 6y ago
  Additionally he has told me they summarily discard 93% of all incoming messages based on spam scoring. That’s discarded even before hitting the junk folder.

ThePhysicist 6y ago

Meh, really depends on how many mails you send every day. In general, you should have proper SPF, DKIM and DMARC entries in your DNS config, DMARC especially will make it easy to learn if anyone classifies your mails as SPAM. Of course the transactional mailing providers want to scare you into thinking it's not possible to just deliver mail yourself. That might be true if you operate at a large scale, but for most B2B SaaS apps it's completely fine to send the mails yourself.

CodeWriter23 6y ago
I have no connection to any company selling email services. Read my comments above for my sources.

ykevinator 6y ago

Op is correct if you have dns records set