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> There's this thing called "cash". There are (and have been for at least a century) ways to transfer it from place to place, even electronically, in a mostly a
by eMGm4D0zgUAVXc7 6y ago
> There's this thing called "cash". There are (and have been for at least a century) ways to transfer it from place to place, even electronically, in a mostly anonymous way - as mobile minutes, through western union, etc. The farther it has to go, the easier it is to track, but locally, it takes non-trivial effort to track transfer to the point that governments mostly do it when they actually have a reason rather than "just because".
You are right that this COULD be designed in an anonymous way, e.g. with cryptocurrencies, sure :)
It is however naive to believe that governments will actually do that if citizens allow them to require payment for social media access.
It will very certainly wind up being trackable.
> Well then, you're doing it wrong. You are violating FB's "real name" terms of service. And also, rest assured that almost everyone of the people you've talked to on Facebook has de-anonymized you, by having your real name in their address book somewhere which they uploaded to FB/WhatsApp/Instagram knowingly or unknowingly.
That only applies if I tell my real name to any of those people, which I don't.
> If you care about your privacy, get off facebook.
It is impossible to get off of FB without being denied access to things which are a central part of social life, e.g. events.
> > To not become a fascist country, you cannot regulate social media access.
> To not become a fascist country, you have to regulate social media.
I'm sorry, my wording was imprecise!
Let me correct it please: To not become a fascist country, you have to regulate social media, but you MUST NOT deny access to it.
- beagle3 6y agoI agree everything implemented will likely be more trackable. It's already trackable as far as governments are concerned - both FB and ISPs will gladly give any data requested by governments, and tracking is one JOIN away if you didn't use a good VPN. I was just commenting that it's possible to make the payment untrackable, and not very hard. > That only applies if I tell my real name to any of those people, which I don't. FB also correlates by a thousands items if you use the FB app, and (at least) by IP address if you don't. Hopefully, you never ever logged in to any other website with the same browser (or are using a super strict uBO / uMatrix policy), because that website will likely correlate you through their embedded FB pixel/like button. > It is impossible to get off of FB without being denied access to things which are a central part of social life, e.g. events. I guess you are in the US? That's not been my experience in other places. Everything still happens by email as well in other places. (The same cannot be said about WhatsApp - however - which cannot be escaped outside the US; If you meant "including WhatsApp" when you said FB, then I agree - though if you don't backup and don't use WhatsApp web, your copy of the conversation is still private. Metadata and the other party's is likely not.....)