For sure it's hard to compare titles across companies. But P&L would be a pretty hard line at most places, above which are people whose primary responsibility i

For sure it's hard to compare titles across companies. But P&L would be a pretty hard line at most places, above which are people whose primary responsibility is to financial results, the C-suite, the board, etc. In places you've been, are people in these positions seen as, generally, "product team leaders" or as "people upstairs"?