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Why? Care to explain? Because my answer was to > They're just jealous and need to write 'apple bad' blog to validate to themselves why they are years behind

Why? Care to explain? Because my answer was to > They're just jealous and need to write 'apple bad' blog to validate to themselves why they are years behind which doesn't even qualify as "bad irony"

snazz 6y ago
Apple is made up of hundreds of thousands of employees. Their goal is to make money, not be "good" or "bad". Their individual decisions might be better or worse for certain groups of people, but Apple as a whole isn't really an entity that you can make a value judgement about.
- romanoderoma 6y ago
  > Apple is made up of hundreds of thousands of employees And they can still be bad I could be fooled by your words when I was kid, unfortunately for me I'm too old to be fooled by rhetoric and propaganda. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Philip_Morris https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Philip_Morris > Their individual decisions might be better or worse for certain groups of people And those can be criminal decisions. More often than not, multi trillion companies act like villains, they lie, deceit, bribe, threaten, they use all the tricks in the book. And people working there have no decisional power whatsoever, they are just clogs in the machine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enron_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enron_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon_oil_spill https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon_oil_spill https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_bribery_scandals https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_bribery_scandals Not rarely, their actions lead to innocent people dying https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn_suicides https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn_suicides > but Apple as a whole isn't really an entity that you can make a value judgement about. Then how can you make a judgment about China or USSR or Cuba or Iraq? There's a billion and a half people in China... By your logic it's impossible to make a judgment, right?
  - romanoderoma 6y ago
    On the front page today (2020-11-24) "Apple’s head of security indicted in Santa Clara County CCW case" Coincidence? Probably not https://morganhilltimes.com/apples-head-of-security-indicted-in-santa-clara-county-ccw-case/ https://morganhilltimes.com/apples-head-of-security-indicted...

Why? Care to explain? Because my answer was to > They're just jealous and need to write 'apple bad' blog to validate to themselves why they are years behind which doesn't even qualify as "bad irony"

snazz 6y ago

Apple is made up of hundreds of thousands of employees. Their goal is to make money, not be "good" or "bad". Their individual decisions might be better or worse for certain groups of people, but Apple as a whole isn't really an entity that you can make a value judgement about.

romanoderoma 6y ago
> Apple is made up of hundreds of thousands of employees And they can still be bad I could be fooled by your words when I was kid, unfortunately for me I'm too old to be fooled by rhetoric and propaganda. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Philip_Morris https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Philip_Morris > Their individual decisions might be better or worse for certain groups of people And those can be criminal decisions. More often than not, multi trillion companies act like villains, they lie, deceit, bribe, threaten, they use all the tricks in the book. And people working there have no decisional power whatsoever, they are just clogs in the machine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enron_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enron_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon_oil_spill https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon_oil_spill https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_bribery_scandals https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_bribery_scandals Not rarely, their actions lead to innocent people dying https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn_suicides https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn_suicides > but Apple as a whole isn't really an entity that you can make a value judgement about. Then how can you make a judgment about China or USSR or Cuba or Iraq? There's a billion and a half people in China... By your logic it's impossible to make a judgment, right?
- romanoderoma 6y ago
  On the front page today (2020-11-24) "Apple’s head of security indicted in Santa Clara County CCW case" Coincidence? Probably not https://morganhilltimes.com/apples-head-of-security-indicted-in-santa-clara-county-ccw-case/ https://morganhilltimes.com/apples-head-of-security-indicted...