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Could you elaborate on why it is such a great achievement? Seems like a pretty natural consequence of their growing economy.

by SPBS 6y ago

dzonga 6y ago
lifting a billion people out of poverty, would be a big achievment in terms of economic planning, logistics and resource planning. those are no small tasks. also while maintaining social integrity. yeah, the ccp takes away a lot of freedoms, but how would you do maintain a cohesive society ?
- _dibly 6y ago
  >maintaining social integrity >takes away a lot of freedoms pick one?
  - SwiftyBug 6y ago
    In order for social integrity to be maintained we need to give up some freedoms.
    - _dibly 6y ago
      Well the freedoms being taken away in this instance involve throwing certain religious groups into labor camps, so maybe consider the context of the argument.
- bennysonething 6y ago
  Why is would a cohesive society require removing freedoms? In fact that west has shown this needn't be the case.
  - dzonga 6y ago
    has the west shown this is the case ? or it's an illusion of freedom ? here in the US, people vote and elect officials etc. But to those officials pass laws that help the people ? hardly so, but instead pass laws that benefit corporations firstly over human people. As a black person, I can speak up against mass incarceration, but do I have power to end it, NO. That's the illusion of freedom. It's the illusion that all men are equal under law, but we know the law treats you differently based on wealth, skin color etc.
Cymruboogaloo 6y ago
You're looking at a country of a billion people, not only that this increase wasn't hoarded like it in the west it was government directed and shared out among most of the people in the country.
kieselguhr_kid 6y ago
It's not a natural consequence of economic growth. The United States has hundreds of thousands of people living in extreme poverty, if not more, despite being one of the most developed countries in the world. Why didn't all the growth end it here?
- vlovich123 6y ago
  These are semantic games. This isn’t talking about no one in poverty. This is the equivalent of the United States saying there are no states in a state of poverty. Would you care to characterize any states as being in a state of poverty? How is it defined for a state to be in poverty? Given this is a government created list that the government promised to finish by the end of 2020 and that no one but the government is capable of validating it, what are the odds this is at least somewhat a political tool rather than a legitimate accomplishment?
nwellnhof 6y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_GDP_of_China#/media/File:GDP_per_capita_of_China_and_India.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_GDP_of_China#/media...

Could you elaborate on why it is such a great achievement? Seems like a pretty natural consequence of their growing economy.

by SPBS 6y ago

Could you elaborate on why it is such a great achievement? Seems like a pretty natural consequence of their growing economy.

dzonga 6y ago

lifting a billion people out of poverty, would be a big achievment in terms of economic planning, logistics and resource planning. those are no small tasks. also while maintaining social integrity. yeah, the ccp takes away a lot of freedoms, but how would you do maintain a cohesive society ?

_dibly 6y ago
>maintaining social integrity >takes away a lot of freedoms pick one?
- SwiftyBug 6y ago
  In order for social integrity to be maintained we need to give up some freedoms.
  - _dibly 6y ago
    Well the freedoms being taken away in this instance involve throwing certain religious groups into labor camps, so maybe consider the context of the argument.
bennysonething 6y ago
Why is would a cohesive society require removing freedoms? In fact that west has shown this needn't be the case.
- dzonga 6y ago
  has the west shown this is the case ? or it's an illusion of freedom ? here in the US, people vote and elect officials etc. But to those officials pass laws that help the people ? hardly so, but instead pass laws that benefit corporations firstly over human people. As a black person, I can speak up against mass incarceration, but do I have power to end it, NO. That's the illusion of freedom. It's the illusion that all men are equal under law, but we know the law treats you differently based on wealth, skin color etc.

Cymruboogaloo 6y ago

You're looking at a country of a billion people, not only that this increase wasn't hoarded like it in the west it was government directed and shared out among most of the people in the country.

kieselguhr_kid 6y ago

It's not a natural consequence of economic growth. The United States has hundreds of thousands of people living in extreme poverty, if not more, despite being one of the most developed countries in the world. Why didn't all the growth end it here?

vlovich123 6y ago
These are semantic games. This isn’t talking about no one in poverty. This is the equivalent of the United States saying there are no states in a state of poverty. Would you care to characterize any states as being in a state of poverty? How is it defined for a state to be in poverty? Given this is a government created list that the government promised to finish by the end of 2020 and that no one but the government is capable of validating it, what are the odds this is at least somewhat a political tool rather than a legitimate accomplishment?

nwellnhof 6y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_GDP_of_China#/media/File:GDP_per_capita_of_China_and_India.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_GDP_of_China#/media...