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Cite a reason why you'd think it's dumb. Denying that China has so far been very successful is a fallacy. Compare China to India, China was behind. Now it has

Cite a reason why you'd think it's dumb. Denying that China has so far been very successful is a fallacy. Compare China to India, China was behind. Now it has leapfrogged ahead. It is yet to be seen if China can reach the developed country status, which would require dethroning the dollar as the world reserve currency. However, just because China has been successful in the past doesn't mean it will be able to achieve this feat.

taf2 6y ago
If being ahead means running concentration camps similar to Nazi Germany then sure they are ahead [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_re-education_camps#:~:text=As%20of%202018%2C%20it%20was,internment%20camps%20which%20are%20located https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_re-education_camps#:~...
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- gimpuser 6y ago
  We should consider sending Trump supporters to reeducation camps.
- d3nj4l 6y ago
  That's a sad attempt at shifting goalposts. Even as an Indian, I can easily admit that China has done far better economically than my country. Their awful repressive policies and authoritarian government are bad, to be sure, but economically there is no reason to complain.
  - libeclipse 6y ago
    You currently have a nationalist authoritarian government that is bent on curbing civil rights and is economically incompetent. It's not hard to imagine why China is doing better economically.
- 01100011 6y ago
  Don't forget the Great Leap Forward(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward). Sure, it was 60 years ago, but 18-45 million people starved in the service of the same authoritarian regime in power today. China continues to bully its regional neighbors like Vietnam over dubious claims to the regional seas. Now, to be fair, I'm typing this on land formerly inhabited by American Indians, in a nation with a history of lying to start wars and exploiting foreign nations for gain. But at least I am able to discuss these issues and push for changes to keep those atrocities from happening again.
  - free_rms 6y ago
    You're able to discuss the issues, but you are very much not able to push for changes. Nobody has successfully pushed back on any aspect of the war on terror my entire life, including 2 different Presidents who came in saying it should be rolled back. The newest one doesn't even give it lip service.
ga6840 6y ago
If it wasn't CCP, China can be much better now. Remember why China is poor back then? It's called culture revolution, 10 years.

taf2 6y ago

If being ahead means running concentration camps similar to Nazi Germany then sure they are ahead [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_re-education_camps#:~:text=As%20of%202018%2C%20it%20was,internment%20camps%20which%20are%20located https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_re-education_camps#:~...

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gimpuser 6y ago
We should consider sending Trump supporters to reeducation camps.
d3nj4l 6y ago
That's a sad attempt at shifting goalposts. Even as an Indian, I can easily admit that China has done far better economically than my country. Their awful repressive policies and authoritarian government are bad, to be sure, but economically there is no reason to complain.
- libeclipse 6y ago
  You currently have a nationalist authoritarian government that is bent on curbing civil rights and is economically incompetent. It's not hard to imagine why China is doing better economically.
01100011 6y ago
Don't forget the Great Leap Forward(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward). Sure, it was 60 years ago, but 18-45 million people starved in the service of the same authoritarian regime in power today. China continues to bully its regional neighbors like Vietnam over dubious claims to the regional seas. Now, to be fair, I'm typing this on land formerly inhabited by American Indians, in a nation with a history of lying to start wars and exploiting foreign nations for gain. But at least I am able to discuss these issues and push for changes to keep those atrocities from happening again.
- free_rms 6y ago
  You're able to discuss the issues, but you are very much not able to push for changes. Nobody has successfully pushed back on any aspect of the war on terror my entire life, including 2 different Presidents who came in saying it should be rolled back. The newest one doesn't even give it lip service.

ga6840 6y ago

If it wasn't CCP, China can be much better now. Remember why China is poor back then? It's called culture revolution, 10 years.