3 ms·

Apple's walled gardens don't solve the maleware problem. People get code Apple doesn't approve of onto their platforms all the time. What these things do make

by swiley 6y ago

Apple's walled gardens don't solve the maleware problem. People get code Apple doesn't approve of onto their platforms all the time. What these things do make more difficult is community maintained software, which is what made the platforms you feel nostalgic about so nice.

socialdemocrat 6y ago
Yeah let us stop using Anti virus software on PC because it doesn’t stop every virus. It is never about elimination but minimization. Reality is that macOS and iOS both have much smaller malware problem than competing platforms.
- swiley 6y ago
  I would disagree, GNU/Linux has less of a malware problem than OSX and at the end of the day they all run browsers which have their own issues. There's also a serious cost to the walled gardens. These things eliminate community maintained software which results in everything on your computer being controlled by a profit (often marketing) driven corporation. These always eventually die (taking your data with them) or abuse their special position of power.
  - coldtea 6y ago
    >There's also a serious cost to the walled gardens. These things eliminate community maintained software So, what's Homebrew, MacPorts, or the tons of Mac-native foss UI apps?
    - swiley 6y ago
      Homebrew at least is outside the walled garden. There's no way a source based package manager would ever make it onto an Apple run app store.
  - zepto 6y ago
    Community maintained software seems to be dying without anything Apple is doing because people can’t afford to maintain it.
coldtea 6y ago
>Apple's walled gardens don't solve the maleware problem. It reduces it to the point of being a non-problem. >People get code Apple doesn't approve of onto their platforms all the time. Only if they put it there themselves. 99.99% of those "Apple viruses" one hears are just trojans. And if you stick to the Mac App Store and trusted sources (Adobe, MS, etc), you get close to zero malware, with the ocassional "missed it at Mac App store review" exception that gets stomped on soon. I think this is enough: https://www.pandasecurity.com/en/mediacenter/mobile-security/android-more-infected-than-ios/#:~:text=Android%2Dpowered%20connected%20devices%20are,Nokia's%20latest%20threat%20intelligence%20report https://www.pandasecurity.com/en/mediacenter/mobile-security....

by swiley 6y ago

socialdemocrat 6y ago

Yeah let us stop using Anti virus software on PC because it doesn’t stop every virus. It is never about elimination but minimization. Reality is that macOS and iOS both have much smaller malware problem than competing platforms.

swiley 6y ago
I would disagree, GNU/Linux has less of a malware problem than OSX and at the end of the day they all run browsers which have their own issues. There's also a serious cost to the walled gardens. These things eliminate community maintained software which results in everything on your computer being controlled by a profit (often marketing) driven corporation. These always eventually die (taking your data with them) or abuse their special position of power.
- coldtea 6y ago
  >There's also a serious cost to the walled gardens. These things eliminate community maintained software So, what's Homebrew, MacPorts, or the tons of Mac-native foss UI apps?
  - swiley 6y ago
    Homebrew at least is outside the walled garden. There's no way a source based package manager would ever make it onto an Apple run app store.
- zepto 6y ago
  Community maintained software seems to be dying without anything Apple is doing because people can’t afford to maintain it.

coldtea 6y ago

>Apple's walled gardens don't solve the maleware problem. It reduces it to the point of being a non-problem. >People get code Apple doesn't approve of onto their platforms all the time. Only if they put it there themselves. 99.99% of those "Apple viruses" one hears are just trojans. And if you stick to the Mac App Store and trusted sources (Adobe, MS, etc), you get close to zero malware, with the ocassional "missed it at Mac App store review" exception that gets stomped on soon. I think this is enough: https://www.pandasecurity.com/en/mediacenter/mobile-security/android-more-infected-than-ios/#:~:text=Android%2Dpowered%20connected%20devices%20are,Nokia's%20latest%20threat%20intelligence%20report https://www.pandasecurity.com/en/mediacenter/mobile-security....