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This entire article seems to work on the premise that Arm chips and Apple silicon are the same thing. This is demonstrably not the case though. Apple silicon se

This entire article seems to work on the premise that Arm chips and Apple silicon are the same thing. This is demonstrably not the case though. Apple silicon seemingly trounces other phone silicon. It's not like Arm chips are going to come to PC and perform like the M1, they're going to come to the PC and perform like Samsung's smart phones. As a weird sidenote to this: Whilst I was looking up the benchmarks of the iPhone I found out that basically every single tech mag is owned by the exact same company - you can tell because they all have the same adblocker nagware.

nix23 6y ago
>they're going to come to the PC and perform like Samsung's smart phones. Sounds like Apple cooks (pun intended) with magic, and not with water, Graviton? Ampere?
izacus 6y ago
> This entire article seems to work on the premise that Arm chips and Apple silicon are the same thing. This is demonstrably not the case though. Apple silicon seemingly trounces other phone silicon. It's not like Arm chips are going to come to PC and perform like the M1, they're going to come to the PC and perform like Samsung's smart phones. Yup, and it assumes that all x86-64 chips will behave like Intels obsolete architecture right after AMD has shown pretty impressive IPC improvements with Zen3 as well. It's clickbait by someone who doesn't really understand the difference between an architecture and actual designs being built.
- blunte 6y ago
  > ... by someone who doesn't really understand the difference between ... This is who you're talking down about: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Louis_Gass%C3%A9e https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Louis_Gass%C3%A9e
  - izacus 6y ago
    Well, it seems like he failed to follow the landscape since 2000s successfully.
  - ubercow13 6y ago
    Interesting, makes you wonder why he sounds like someone who doesn't really understand the difference between an architecture and actual designs being built.
woadwarrior01 6y ago
> As a weird sidenote to this: Whilst I was looking up the benchmarks of the iPhone I found out that basically every single tech mag is owned by the exact same company - you can tell because they all have the same adblocker nagware. OT: I’ve been using a pi-hole for about a year now and adblockers for much longer. The pi-hole combined with ublock origin seems to cover a lot more than what ublock origin alone did.
Zenst 6y ago
> It's not like Arm chips are going to come to PC and perform like the M1, they're going to come to the PC and perform like Samsung's smart phones. Indeed, the whole aspect of comparing say an Apple flagship phone to an Android phone and you see differences that on paper would have the Android as a better experience. What Apple has going is complete integration, from chip to board to OS. That in itself allows for much better integration and utilisation. >As a weird sidenote to this: Whilst I was looking up the benchmarks of the iPhone I found out that basically every single tech mag is owned by the exact same company - you can tell because they all have the same adblocker nagware. Not sure I'd read that far into that, maybe some company did a good nagware and sold/open sourced to all those sites. Though still, if the salient points still the same with different wording, that would be telling. For me, YouTube seems to cut thru much of that, not that it don't have it's only area's of concern but does seem to get more honest takes and individual opinions more.
- Traster 6y ago
  No, I literally mean I looked it up: I googled "iphone 12 performance benchmark" and got: Tomsguide, laptopmag, t3 and Tech Radar. What is the point of Google if the front page is going to be full of the same article reworded repeatedly by the same company under different brands.
  - Zenst 6y ago
    Yeah I did some digging and Toms.... has a sister company Tech Radar, so probably is the case with many and some big company borged all these sites over time, kinda same as News papers and owners was/is.
mschuster91 6y ago
> As a weird sidenote to this: Whilst I was looking up the benchmarks of the iPhone I found out that basically every single tech mag is owned by the exact same company - you can tell because they all have the same adblocker nagware. This nagware is available as a service now (CMP, short for "Consent Management Provider/Platform"). Popular examples (out of what I remember from an evaluation some time ago) are TrustArc (used e.g. by Oracle), consentmanager.de (lots of German media) and Usercentrics.

nix23 6y ago

>they're going to come to the PC and perform like Samsung's smart phones. Sounds like Apple cooks (pun intended) with magic, and not with water, Graviton? Ampere?

izacus 6y ago

> This entire article seems to work on the premise that Arm chips and Apple silicon are the same thing. This is demonstrably not the case though. Apple silicon seemingly trounces other phone silicon. It's not like Arm chips are going to come to PC and perform like the M1, they're going to come to the PC and perform like Samsung's smart phones. Yup, and it assumes that all x86-64 chips will behave like Intels obsolete architecture right after AMD has shown pretty impressive IPC improvements with Zen3 as well. It's clickbait by someone who doesn't really understand the difference between an architecture and actual designs being built.

blunte 6y ago
> ... by someone who doesn't really understand the difference between ... This is who you're talking down about: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Louis_Gass%C3%A9e https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Louis_Gass%C3%A9e
- izacus 6y ago
  Well, it seems like he failed to follow the landscape since 2000s successfully.
- ubercow13 6y ago
  Interesting, makes you wonder why he sounds like someone who doesn't really understand the difference between an architecture and actual designs being built.

woadwarrior01 6y ago

> As a weird sidenote to this: Whilst I was looking up the benchmarks of the iPhone I found out that basically every single tech mag is owned by the exact same company - you can tell because they all have the same adblocker nagware. OT: I’ve been using a pi-hole for about a year now and adblockers for much longer. The pi-hole combined with ublock origin seems to cover a lot more than what ublock origin alone did.

Zenst 6y ago

> It's not like Arm chips are going to come to PC and perform like the M1, they're going to come to the PC and perform like Samsung's smart phones. Indeed, the whole aspect of comparing say an Apple flagship phone to an Android phone and you see differences that on paper would have the Android as a better experience. What Apple has going is complete integration, from chip to board to OS. That in itself allows for much better integration and utilisation. >As a weird sidenote to this: Whilst I was looking up the benchmarks of the iPhone I found out that basically every single tech mag is owned by the exact same company - you can tell because they all have the same adblocker nagware. Not sure I'd read that far into that, maybe some company did a good nagware and sold/open sourced to all those sites. Though still, if the salient points still the same with different wording, that would be telling. For me, YouTube seems to cut thru much of that, not that it don't have it's only area's of concern but does seem to get more honest takes and individual opinions more.

Traster 6y ago
No, I literally mean I looked it up: I googled "iphone 12 performance benchmark" and got: Tomsguide, laptopmag, t3 and Tech Radar. What is the point of Google if the front page is going to be full of the same article reworded repeatedly by the same company under different brands.
- Zenst 6y ago
  Yeah I did some digging and Toms.... has a sister company Tech Radar, so probably is the case with many and some big company borged all these sites over time, kinda same as News papers and owners was/is.

mschuster91 6y ago

> As a weird sidenote to this: Whilst I was looking up the benchmarks of the iPhone I found out that basically every single tech mag is owned by the exact same company - you can tell because they all have the same adblocker nagware. This nagware is available as a service now (CMP, short for "Consent Management Provider/Platform"). Popular examples (out of what I remember from an evaluation some time ago) are TrustArc (used e.g. by Oracle), consentmanager.de (lots of German media) and Usercentrics.