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What exactly is wacky about limiting legal immigration and/or asylum if that is what the citizens want? IMHO, Those don't seem like insane ideas when there is c

by ksk 6y ago

What exactly is wacky about limiting legal immigration and/or asylum if that is what the citizens want? IMHO, Those don't seem like insane ideas when there is crazy amounts of unemployment in the country.

lazyasciiart 6y ago
Well, some of it's illegal according to treaties the US has ratified.
- ksk 6y ago
  I'm taking everything that is being proposed in good faith. There is a legal manner in which a country controls who gets to come in. Whether they have to modify treaties or not, I don't know - I'm not an expert on international jurisprudence.
atomi 6y ago
Whatever your political views are, my point was that there is a clear delineation between parties. Being apathetic to politics is consequential in and of itself. As to your claim about immigration, I'm not interested in defending any particular policy position. But, there is some research that indicates immigration boosts overall labor participation [1]. http://giovanniperi.ucdavis.edu/uploads/5/6/8/2/56826033/peri_sparber_task_specialization_immigration_2010.pdf http://giovanniperi.ucdavis.edu/uploads/5/6/8/2/56826033/per...
- ksk 6y ago
  >Whatever your political views are, my point was that there is a clear delineation between parties. It doesn't help your case when you lump arguable, but sane positions with denying climate change.
  - atomi 6y ago
    Not especially sane, no. They're particular to the modern conservative party.
    - ksk 6y ago
      >They're particular to the modern conservative party. Many of my liberal friends believe in crazy stuff like russiagate or defending BLM looters/rioters or proudly voting for a political candidate that supported bombings in the middle east that lead to the death of countless civilians (including kids) while simultaneously villainizing Dubya for being a war mongering criminal. You'll have to excuse me for not seeing your "clear delineation" - whatever that means.

by ksk 6y ago

lazyasciiart 6y ago

Well, some of it's illegal according to treaties the US has ratified.

ksk 6y ago
I'm taking everything that is being proposed in good faith. There is a legal manner in which a country controls who gets to come in. Whether they have to modify treaties or not, I don't know - I'm not an expert on international jurisprudence.

atomi 6y ago

Whatever your political views are, my point was that there is a clear delineation between parties. Being apathetic to politics is consequential in and of itself. As to your claim about immigration, I'm not interested in defending any particular policy position. But, there is some research that indicates immigration boosts overall labor participation [1]. http://giovanniperi.ucdavis.edu/uploads/5/6/8/2/56826033/peri_sparber_task_specialization_immigration_2010.pdf http://giovanniperi.ucdavis.edu/uploads/5/6/8/2/56826033/per...

ksk 6y ago
>Whatever your political views are, my point was that there is a clear delineation between parties. It doesn't help your case when you lump arguable, but sane positions with denying climate change.
- atomi 6y ago
  Not especially sane, no. They're particular to the modern conservative party.
  - ksk 6y ago
    >They're particular to the modern conservative party. Many of my liberal friends believe in crazy stuff like russiagate or defending BLM looters/rioters or proudly voting for a political candidate that supported bombings in the middle east that lead to the death of countless civilians (including kids) while simultaneously villainizing Dubya for being a war mongering criminal. You'll have to excuse me for not seeing your "clear delineation" - whatever that means.