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Climate science is not political, climate policy is. You aren't wrong that some people misunderstand what it is to support science, and conflate that with certa

Climate science is not political, climate policy is. You aren't wrong that some people misunderstand what it is to support science, and conflate that with certain policy preferences. I also think the blame for that can be placed squarely with those who have chosen to attack institutions of scientific truth because they are opposed to policy that might result from what is clearly true. Blame the politicization of "science" on the pro oil propagandists that put in the effort to make it that way. The naive "pro-science" stance is a reaction.

disown 6y ago
> Climate science is not political, climate policy is. The problem is climate policy determines climate science. > I also think the blame for that can be placed squarely with those who have chosen to attack institutions of scientific truth "Institutions of scientific truth". Sounds rather orwellian, but yours is a form of appeal to authority. Institutions don't determine "scientific truth", experiments do. > because they are opposed to policy that might result from what is clearly true. Spoken like a true believer. > Blame the politicization of "science" on the pro oil propagandists that put in the effort to make it that way Enough blame to go around. And you aren't any better than the oil propagandists. > The naive "pro-science" stance is a reaction. Yes. Oil companies funded the oil propagandists. Who is funding the "green" propagandists. I wonder?
- smolder 6y ago
  Wonder no more, as absolutely no one is out to get the oil industry just for the sake of harming it. Plenty of people will lie and are paid to lie for the sake of helping it. The green propagandists are funded by themselves and philanthropists, by people who understand greenhouse gasses and the need to be miserly with our oil consumption to reduce human suffering. Some grifters have tried to make money on green products, but that is no different than in any other industry of mostly honest motives.

disown 6y ago

> Climate science is not political, climate policy is. The problem is climate policy determines climate science. > I also think the blame for that can be placed squarely with those who have chosen to attack institutions of scientific truth "Institutions of scientific truth". Sounds rather orwellian, but yours is a form of appeal to authority. Institutions don't determine "scientific truth", experiments do. > because they are opposed to policy that might result from what is clearly true. Spoken like a true believer. > Blame the politicization of "science" on the pro oil propagandists that put in the effort to make it that way Enough blame to go around. And you aren't any better than the oil propagandists. > The naive "pro-science" stance is a reaction. Yes. Oil companies funded the oil propagandists. Who is funding the "green" propagandists. I wonder?

smolder 6y ago
Wonder no more, as absolutely no one is out to get the oil industry just for the sake of harming it. Plenty of people will lie and are paid to lie for the sake of helping it. The green propagandists are funded by themselves and philanthropists, by people who understand greenhouse gasses and the need to be miserly with our oil consumption to reduce human suffering. Some grifters have tried to make money on green products, but that is no different than in any other industry of mostly honest motives.