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I would pay a premium for employees who can work with people whose opinions they strongly disagree with. If you're one these people please try to signal it som
by gotoeleven 6y ago
I would pay a premium for employees who can work with people whose opinions they strongly disagree with. If you're one these people please try to signal it somehow during the interview process.
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- eat_veggies 6y agoThere are opinions about technology stacks and code style, and there are opinions about whether Black people deserve to be alive. We can disagree about code style.
- gotoeleven 6y agoHave you ever actually met anyone who thought black people didn't deserve to be alive?
- eat_veggies 6y agoYes, I have.
- bigbubba 6y agoWorking in tech companies? I'm sure it happens sometimes, but it must be extremely rare.
- hutzlibu 6y agoHave you checked the dark corners of the web, in the last time? Or did you do (unmoderated) gaming at some point? Maybe don't, if you want to keep your point of view. The point is exactly, that those people spreading the hate online - are very reservated when you meet them in person. Because they have a mask. But when they do gaming or chatting on 4chan or wherever - then all their hidden opinions, they are not allowed to express at daytime, burst out.
- zarkov99 6y agoI think that perhaps we have not yet adjusted to the full implications of the democratization of speech. Extreme opinions, held by the tiniest, most unhinged minorities, get amplified precisely because they are so unusual. In other words, its not so much that violent, racist ideologies are on the rise, as much as we have access to the ramblings of the entire country and the ideas that most easily stand out in the noise are the horrific ones.
- hutzlibu 6y ago" In other words, its not so much that violent, racist ideologies are on the rise, as much as we have access to the ramblings of the entire country and the ideas that most easily stand out in the noise are the horrific ones." Comforting theory and yes, surely the horrific opinions stand out. I remember visiting 4chan/pol the first time and how shocked I was. But now I know a bit more of the internet and I would rather say, that most of the things you see, are just the tip of the iceberg.
- bigbubba 6y agoSuch people can be found if you go looking for them, but that doesn't mean they are common. Even a few dozen of them in an industry of hundreds of thousands is enough to create a web forum with the appearance of popularity. That they're easy to find online may be proof that search engines are effective, but I don't consider it evidence of their prevalence.
- hutzlibu 6y agoWell, no. I am not looking for them. I still find them. Like I said, I do gaming sometimes. On most servers racial insults get you kicked - and for a reason, this is highlighted. On servers without a admin online ... you see it. But if you want numbers, here, one of the first results with a quick google search: pewsocialtrends.org/2019/04/09/race-in-america-2019/
- username90 6y agoRefusing to work with people encouraging genocide is a bit different from refusing to work with a person who wants to reduce social benefits to the poor.
- lghh 6y agoYes, they are different. Yet, I also don't want to work with anyone who doesn't think a child born to a poor family should be allowed to eat.
- zarkov99 6y agoDoes anyone actually advocate that? insane mis characterization of the other side is another reason politics should be avoided at work. People who would otherwise get along just fine become enemies because they are fighting the most despicable possible interpretation of the others position. It's nuts.
- lghh 6y agoIf people rely on food stamps to eat and you cut food stamps, what happens?
- hnracer 6y agoAnd almost everyone will agree with you, as long as you're not using the latter as a strawman for arguments that advocate no such agenda.
- zarkov99 6y agoJesus, how many people have you ever met that openly stated that X people do not deserve to be alive?
- Der_Einzige 6y agoIn real life? Maybe 10. On the internet? Maybe I spend too much time on discord, but I've met potentially hundreds of people who unironically believe that the value to life of non-white people is very low and that most do not deserve life. Lots of actual crypto Nazis and fascists are there and they radicalize young and impressionable gamers...
- Kye 6y agoQuite a few. I see prominent people on my own "side" calling for the genocide or isolation of entire states, one of which I'm in, because an election swung the wrong way by a few percent.
- cco 6y agoIn San Francisco? No one I ever met personally said that, but I heard plenty of "chatter" at BBQs where SF police officers were guests. Where I grew up, in the "East Pacific Northwest", some were violent enough to actually say that out loud. I never knew anyone personally that murdered a black person, but I knew several who got into fights for this reason. These were kids in high school, police officers, elected political officials, etc. I'm very happy to say I've never personally heard anything like that in a professional setting, but I'm sure it exists and I hope it'd be treated very seriously.
- mas3god 6y agoMccarthyism is alive and well in 2020
- dang 6y agoPlease don't take HN threads into pointless flamewar like this. It helps no one and leads noplace interesting or new. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html In fact, it's so over the top that it's basically trolling. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=troll%20effects%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...
- octoberfranklin 6y agoLet a hundred flowers bloom.