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it's the most upvoted comment of the thread

chordalkeyboard 6y ago
well now its flagged and dead, so I guess there are a variety of people here with perspectives that don't always align...which is a sign of a healthy community.
- jelliclesfarm 6y ago
  what it conveys to me is that those who are silent and downvote without engaging in any kind of meaningful exchange are valued more highly than other members of the community who take the time and effort to create content and perspectives with the goal of sharing and wanting to learn more.
  - chordalkeyboard 6y ago
    to be frank I think that your perspective does not consider the unintended consequences of the alternative. "you determine your own level of involvement" -fight club
    - jelliclesfarm 6y ago
      >to be frank I think that your perspective does not consider the unintended consequences of the alternative. explain this to me, please?
      - chordalkeyboard 6y ago
        if you require people to comment in order to make downvotes then they will make low quality comments so they can downvote. In this way, downvoting is seen as a minimum level of participation. By eliminating that possibility you change the incentive structure and the behavior of people in response to the incentives will also change.
        jelliclesfarm 6y ago
        ok. i see what you mean. what a waste of time. i really don't know what to say. is it the hubris of our time that we imagine that our shallow disapproval has value even when we are faceless/anonymous. now this reminds me of that black mirror episode, nosedive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosedive_(Black_Mirror) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosedive_(Black_Mirror) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLc2E4P87QE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLc2E4P87QE
        chordalkeyboard 6y ago
        > now this reminds me of that black mirror episode, nosedive. now I understand more of where you're coming from. I humbly suggest that you assign less significance to the points on your comments. I've been on this site for about a year. I have some highly rated comments and some negative comments. looking at my comment history, I am more and more convinced that the points rating is a noisy signal and its harmful to consider the points as very significant, especially as pertains to specific comments.
        jelliclesfarm 6y ago
        I don’t really care about the points. It was a knee jerk reaction this time because it was literally seconds after I posted that I saw the downvotes(plural). Rent control/minimum wage impacts was part of my UG thesis and it was mind numbingly boring. And it stole my time. Being dismissed within seconds without engaging ...you know..said prized curiosity on HN...was personal. It is an entirely emotional reaction because this is one of the topics that is personal to me. HN is supposed to be about the curious spirit...I have been told. Dismissal of comments/post by drive-by downvoting without engaging in a thread is the EXACT OPPOSITE of curiosity, I feel. Usually I get mildly annoyed and/or brush off downvotes. But since I am constantly seeing the curious spirit of HN being dinned over and over..I am beginning to question..what is the value of a drive-by downvoting mechanism in a forum that values the curious spirit?

well now its flagged and dead, so I guess there are a variety of people here with perspectives that don't always align...which is a sign of a healthy community.

jelliclesfarm 6y ago
what it conveys to me is that those who are silent and downvote without engaging in any kind of meaningful exchange are valued more highly than other members of the community who take the time and effort to create content and perspectives with the goal of sharing and wanting to learn more.
- chordalkeyboard 6y ago
  to be frank I think that your perspective does not consider the unintended consequences of the alternative. "you determine your own level of involvement" -fight club
  - jelliclesfarm 6y ago
    >to be frank I think that your perspective does not consider the unintended consequences of the alternative. explain this to me, please?
    - chordalkeyboard 6y ago
      if you require people to comment in order to make downvotes then they will make low quality comments so they can downvote. In this way, downvoting is seen as a minimum level of participation. By eliminating that possibility you change the incentive structure and the behavior of people in response to the incentives will also change.
      - jelliclesfarm 6y ago
        ok. i see what you mean. what a waste of time. i really don't know what to say. is it the hubris of our time that we imagine that our shallow disapproval has value even when we are faceless/anonymous. now this reminds me of that black mirror episode, nosedive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosedive_(Black_Mirror) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosedive_(Black_Mirror) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLc2E4P87QE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLc2E4P87QE
        chordalkeyboard 6y ago
        > now this reminds me of that black mirror episode, nosedive. now I understand more of where you're coming from. I humbly suggest that you assign less significance to the points on your comments. I've been on this site for about a year. I have some highly rated comments and some negative comments. looking at my comment history, I am more and more convinced that the points rating is a noisy signal and its harmful to consider the points as very significant, especially as pertains to specific comments.
        jelliclesfarm 6y ago
        I don’t really care about the points. It was a knee jerk reaction this time because it was literally seconds after I posted that I saw the downvotes(plural). Rent control/minimum wage impacts was part of my UG thesis and it was mind numbingly boring. And it stole my time. Being dismissed within seconds without engaging ...you know..said prized curiosity on HN...was personal. It is an entirely emotional reaction because this is one of the topics that is personal to me. HN is supposed to be about the curious spirit...I have been told. Dismissal of comments/post by drive-by downvoting without engaging in a thread is the EXACT OPPOSITE of curiosity, I feel. Usually I get mildly annoyed and/or brush off downvotes. But since I am constantly seeing the curious spirit of HN being dinned over and over..I am beginning to question..what is the value of a drive-by downvoting mechanism in a forum that values the curious spirit?