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> Europeans will be upset. To an extent, they are. But most of the conversation here seems to be about refugees and asylum seekers rather than legal immigrants
by helmholtz 6y ago
> Europeans will be upset.
To an extent, they are. But most of the conversation here seems to be about refugees and asylum seekers rather than legal immigrants. It helps that I'm more than willing to adopt the European way of life: fashion, food, work-life balance and all the rest of it.
As to your first point, that was the crux of my post. I no longer care (nor am offended by, mind you!) whether you judge me or not. I know how much vitriol coursed through my veins every day I was in Chennai, Bangalore, Delhi etc. And I know how much more at peace I am in France. I am a better human because of it; kinder, more useful to society etc. I would not trade any of it for more abstract notions of whether Europeans as a whole will be upset by the wider trends.
- ra7 6y ago> And I know how much more at peace I am in France. I am a better human because of it; kinder, more useful to society etc. At the risk of judging you, are you sure you are kinder? You just wrote a paragraph about “the typical Indian” in a fairly condescending tone and how you get upset over trivial things like “Indian English” phrases. It’s okay to not like the Indian lifestyle, not everyone has to, even if you are Indian. But please give people a chance and be less judgmental in order to actually practice kindness. Kindness isn't selectively applied to the people whose lifestyle you like.
- helmholtz 6y agoHaha, fair enough, you mentioned it twice now, so I concede that I might be kinder, but I'm still not kind per se! I suppose I was burnt by a youth spent yearning to escape and hence the reactions. I promise I'm pretty harmless in real life :)
- ra7 6y agoAgain, I hear you and relate to a lot of things you said. As I get older though, those things seem trivial and I’ve learnt not to idolize one culture/lifestyle over others. You realize that’s just the way people are in that part of the world and it’s not due to malice.
- mangamadaiyan 6y agoI wouldn't be too sure about it not being due to malice. All too often, what is plentiful is treated with contempt and not respected. One thing that is available in plenty in this side of the world is human capital. I'll leave you the dots to be joined.
- kkarakk 6y agoyou wouldn't say that if you had to grind a life out in the lower tech companies in india. it is soul crushing sometimes
- mangamadaiyan 6y agoOnly sometimes? :) It's not just the "lower tech companies", btw. It depends on many factors which include but are not limited to, prevailing company culture, your immediate manager, the existence of an implicit (or explicit) cabal that calls the shots in your team -- which cabal could well exist because its members passed out of the same three-letter institute, say ... Which is just a long-winded way of saying that your soul is liable to be crushed in any kind of company in India if you have the misfortune of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
- shi314 6y agoI don't want to sound rude but mob doesn't differentiate between refugees and legal immigrants.
- mangamadaiyan 6y agoThe law, insofar as it exists, shouldn't differentiate between mobs and criminals either.
- pc86 6y agoAssuming the mob is actually breaking a law, there is no differentiation.
- djeiasbsbo 6y agoIt sounds like you have immigrated perfectly. I always assumed that by the next generation, people are basically locals if their parents immigrated well. You're an example that it also works well within one generation. But many european people who lean against open immigration policies will not make the rational distinction between you and someone who has not intergrated very well, and will instead judge you based on e.g. your skin color or your last name. I hope you don't have to deal with that!