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What are the visbe alternatives?

by ianai 6y ago

Jaruzel 6y ago
Gmail also has the ability to forward all (or some) emails to another email address. Set up a secondary account somewhere (non-gmail), and have a live backup of your gmail for when the worst happens.
- derwiki 6y ago
  Amazing tip! Well worth the two minute setup to forward to my new Protonmail address
  - Normille 6y ago
    I just set up a couple of Protonmail addresses myself yesterday, as I was getting really pissed off with how unreliable Yandex Mail had become. Unfortunately I didn't find out til after I'd spent a good hour logging into lots of websites and updating my email address to my shiny new Protonmail ones, that I can't connect to a free tier Protonmail account with IMAP and Thunderbird. D'oh! Protonmail looks like a good choice, if you only have one or two email addresses and don't mind being restricted to accessing it via webmail. But I've got half a dozen or more across various services, as well as on my own domains and I want to continue to be able to access them all from within one app [ie. Thunderbird]. The whole different app for every web service thing gets tired very quickly. Also, as per the original thread starter, if you only access your Protonmail account via webmail this does still leave you at the mercy of another company which may or may not decide to lock you out. Can anyone recommend any free alternatives to Gmail / Yandex Mail [preferably privacy respecting] that will actually integrate with an IMAP client?
    - derwiki 6y ago
      Is free a hard requirement?
      - Normille 6y ago
        Pretty much. I already use my own domain for my main personal and business email addresses and I've also set up email addresses for several family members on that domain. So, if I moved to a paid plan, I'd not just be paying for one email address but about 8 or 9 --either that or face the unpleasant task of explaining to family members that they now needed to pay to continue using the email addresses they've had for years. I also have a few other domains that only I have email addresses on and I run the email for those through Gmail and Yandex Mail's servers. I've also got a few other email addresses @gmail.com and @yandex.com which I use for less important stuff like signing up for forums / websites and the like. So, I wouldn't want to be replacing them with a paid plan either --given they're not used for anything important. So in essence, "free" [and reliable] is more important than "secure". I'm not majorly unhappy with my current setup, but I'm always open for giving rival services a try out, just to chip away at the stranglehold the big boys have on the market.
the_duke 6y ago
The most important part is using your own domain so you can always migrate between hosters and have control over your digital identity. If you really want to stick with Gmail, Google Apps is cheap for one user, but goto alternatives are Fastmail and Protonmail.
input_sh 6y ago
With email you absolutely want an address with a domain that you own. You can use it with pretty much any email hosting provider, and in case you get banned, you can point your DNS to another provider and continue with your day. If Google banned my account, my phone would probably be useless, but other than that I wouldn't have any negative consequences. If Facebook banned my account, I wouldn't care at all (I spend less than 5 min per month on there). If Amazon banned my account, same thing (stripped DRM from all ebooks I've purchased there). Microsoft, same (losing my GitHub account would be a bummer, but wouldn't impact my work which is on GitLab). And as far as Apple goes, the only product of theirs I've ever owned was a USB Type C cable. Of course, getting to that point wasn't easy and required years of conscious effort to make my data independent: https://input.sh/healthy-relationship-with-google/ https://input.sh/healthy-relationship-with-google/

What are the visbe alternatives?

by ianai 6y ago

What are the visbe alternatives?

Gmail also has the ability to forward all (or some) emails to another email address. Set up a secondary account somewhere (non-gmail), and have a live backup of your gmail for when the worst happens.

derwiki 6y ago
Amazing tip! Well worth the two minute setup to forward to my new Protonmail address
- Normille 6y ago
  I just set up a couple of Protonmail addresses myself yesterday, as I was getting really pissed off with how unreliable Yandex Mail had become. Unfortunately I didn't find out til after I'd spent a good hour logging into lots of websites and updating my email address to my shiny new Protonmail ones, that I can't connect to a free tier Protonmail account with IMAP and Thunderbird. D'oh! Protonmail looks like a good choice, if you only have one or two email addresses and don't mind being restricted to accessing it via webmail. But I've got half a dozen or more across various services, as well as on my own domains and I want to continue to be able to access them all from within one app [ie. Thunderbird]. The whole different app for every web service thing gets tired very quickly. Also, as per the original thread starter, if you only access your Protonmail account via webmail this does still leave you at the mercy of another company which may or may not decide to lock you out. Can anyone recommend any free alternatives to Gmail / Yandex Mail [preferably privacy respecting] that will actually integrate with an IMAP client?
  - derwiki 6y ago
    Is free a hard requirement?
    - Normille 6y ago
      Pretty much. I already use my own domain for my main personal and business email addresses and I've also set up email addresses for several family members on that domain. So, if I moved to a paid plan, I'd not just be paying for one email address but about 8 or 9 --either that or face the unpleasant task of explaining to family members that they now needed to pay to continue using the email addresses they've had for years. I also have a few other domains that only I have email addresses on and I run the email for those through Gmail and Yandex Mail's servers. I've also got a few other email addresses @gmail.com and @yandex.com which I use for less important stuff like signing up for forums / websites and the like. So, I wouldn't want to be replacing them with a paid plan either --given they're not used for anything important. So in essence, "free" [and reliable] is more important than "secure". I'm not majorly unhappy with my current setup, but I'm always open for giving rival services a try out, just to chip away at the stranglehold the big boys have on the market.

the_duke 6y ago

The most important part is using your own domain so you can always migrate between hosters and have control over your digital identity. If you really want to stick with Gmail, Google Apps is cheap for one user, but goto alternatives are Fastmail and Protonmail.

input_sh 6y ago

With email you absolutely want an address with a domain that you own. You can use it with pretty much any email hosting provider, and in case you get banned, you can point your DNS to another provider and continue with your day. If Google banned my account, my phone would probably be useless, but other than that I wouldn't have any negative consequences. If Facebook banned my account, I wouldn't care at all (I spend less than 5 min per month on there). If Amazon banned my account, same thing (stripped DRM from all ebooks I've purchased there). Microsoft, same (losing my GitHub account would be a bummer, but wouldn't impact my work which is on GitLab). And as far as Apple goes, the only product of theirs I've ever owned was a USB Type C cable. Of course, getting to that point wasn't easy and required years of conscious effort to make my data independent: https://input.sh/healthy-relationship-with-google/ https://input.sh/healthy-relationship-with-google/