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Unlikely that they will backpedal on this, regardless of how much media attention it gets. If a macOS user has an issue with this, time to look for a new OS wh

by kowlo 6y ago

Unlikely that they will backpedal on this, regardless of how much media attention it gets. If a macOS user has an issue with this, time to look for a new OS whilst avoiding the upgrade to Big Sur for as long as possible. Those who depend on it for their business will have issues...

kalleboo 6y ago
An Apple engineer tweeted that the firewall bypass was just a bug and not intentional behavior, but after getting hate replies he gave up and made his account private.
- hvidgaard 6y ago
  In any case it's not an acceptable bug if you want to brand yourself as secure.
- saagarjha 6y ago
  Either that or corporate told him to stop. Probably a combination of both, to be honest; situations where you the next steps are disappearing off the internet for a while are never easy :(
  - kalleboo 6y ago
    Well he also tweeted something along the lines of "if everyone is just going to get angry I'll just stop tweeting/delete my twitter"
    - saagarjha 6y ago
      Last I checked I don't think the account is deleted at the moment, although the first tweet is gone (and I never saw the other one you mentioned). That being said, I'm not at all surprised by that response–like I said, having an offhand tweet of yours get significant attention, and then have people come after you and attack you on top of whatever corporate might have to say to you on the topic, is a great way to get something like that. It's exactly things like these why most Apple engineers don't say much or publicly affiliate themselves with the company–and I am sure that the people who decided to go after him were well aware of what what kinds of things happen after that.
qz2 6y ago
If they backpedal or not it was a shitty trust breaking arrogance driven decision that should be remembered forever.
- LoSboccacc 6y ago
  Apple literally solved their production chain suicide issues by installing nets to catch jumpers, which made the rounds across media https://www.wired.com/2011/02/ff-joelinchina/ https://www.wired.com/2011/02/ff-joelinchina/ I didn't see people ditching Apple then with people life on the line, I don't see people ditching Apple for a software configuration.
  - Rmblnm4n 6y ago
    Meanwhile, computer users toss toxic sewage generating gadgets on future humans to clean. Let’s not ignore the disposable consumer gadget minded’s unethical behavior at scale.

by kowlo 6y ago

kalleboo 6y ago

An Apple engineer tweeted that the firewall bypass was just a bug and not intentional behavior, but after getting hate replies he gave up and made his account private.

hvidgaard 6y ago
In any case it's not an acceptable bug if you want to brand yourself as secure.
saagarjha 6y ago
Either that or corporate told him to stop. Probably a combination of both, to be honest; situations where you the next steps are disappearing off the internet for a while are never easy :(
- kalleboo 6y ago
  Well he also tweeted something along the lines of "if everyone is just going to get angry I'll just stop tweeting/delete my twitter"
  - saagarjha 6y ago
    Last I checked I don't think the account is deleted at the moment, although the first tweet is gone (and I never saw the other one you mentioned). That being said, I'm not at all surprised by that response–like I said, having an offhand tweet of yours get significant attention, and then have people come after you and attack you on top of whatever corporate might have to say to you on the topic, is a great way to get something like that. It's exactly things like these why most Apple engineers don't say much or publicly affiliate themselves with the company–and I am sure that the people who decided to go after him were well aware of what what kinds of things happen after that.

qz2 6y ago

If they backpedal or not it was a shitty trust breaking arrogance driven decision that should be remembered forever.

LoSboccacc 6y ago
Apple literally solved their production chain suicide issues by installing nets to catch jumpers, which made the rounds across media https://www.wired.com/2011/02/ff-joelinchina/ https://www.wired.com/2011/02/ff-joelinchina/ I didn't see people ditching Apple then with people life on the line, I don't see people ditching Apple for a software configuration.
- Rmblnm4n 6y ago
  Meanwhile, computer users toss toxic sewage generating gadgets on future humans to clean. Let’s not ignore the disposable consumer gadget minded’s unethical behavior at scale.