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Lisp as a language might be a footnote, but the ideas the language proposed were revolutionary. Recursion, REPL and even conditionals all came from Lisp (FORTRA

by onei 6y ago

Lisp as a language might be a footnote, but the ideas the language proposed were revolutionary. Recursion, REPL and even conditionals all came from Lisp (FORTRAN had a conditional entity at the time, but not what we'd recognise as a conditional today and I believe they later adopted Lisp-style conditionals anyway). IIRC, Lisp could be expressed in 5 small base functions defined in assembly, from which the entire language could be defined in turn, making it outrageously portable. It's hard to understate how seminal Lisp was.

goatinaboat 6y ago
It's hard to understate how seminal Lisp was. I don’t disagree but the OP was asking for examples of production code to look at
- onei 6y ago
  Ah, but you missed my point :) Maybe you aren't seeing Lisp itself in production code (although someone suggested Emacs which is Lisp), but you see it's ideas and influence in almost every language and program you'd find today. There's little bits of Lisp everywhere you look, even if you don't recognise it as Lisp.
  - elevader 6y ago
    Which is nice (and very true) but hardly useful when all you want is to look at some actually used lisp code. Emacs might be a good candidate for that.
- 0x445442 6y ago
  How about this... https://github.com/wting/hackernews https://github.com/wting/hackernews
stjohnswarts 6y ago
I can understand how the ideas are important and revolutionary, but they were then adopted/extended/reused in other languages that seem to have far surpassed lisp in recognition and pragmatic use. Why hasn't lisp reached the heights of usage of something like C++ or Javascript or Java if it's so popular with computer scientists?
- onei 6y ago
  It's an interesting question, and one I'm not old enough to answer properly. From what I can tell, lisp was popular up until the 80s, where it was heavily used in AI. Then there's a reference to an AI winter, where I suspect OO languages gained a lot of traction and lisp fell out of fashion.

by onei 6y ago

goatinaboat 6y ago

It's hard to understate how seminal Lisp was. I don’t disagree but the OP was asking for examples of production code to look at

onei 6y ago
Ah, but you missed my point :) Maybe you aren't seeing Lisp itself in production code (although someone suggested Emacs which is Lisp), but you see it's ideas and influence in almost every language and program you'd find today. There's little bits of Lisp everywhere you look, even if you don't recognise it as Lisp.
- elevader 6y ago
  Which is nice (and very true) but hardly useful when all you want is to look at some actually used lisp code. Emacs might be a good candidate for that.
0x445442 6y ago
How about this... https://github.com/wting/hackernews https://github.com/wting/hackernews

stjohnswarts 6y ago

I can understand how the ideas are important and revolutionary, but they were then adopted/extended/reused in other languages that seem to have far surpassed lisp in recognition and pragmatic use. Why hasn't lisp reached the heights of usage of something like C++ or Javascript or Java if it's so popular with computer scientists?

onei 6y ago
It's an interesting question, and one I'm not old enough to answer properly. From what I can tell, lisp was popular up until the 80s, where it was heavily used in AI. Then there's a reference to an AI winter, where I suspect OO languages gained a lot of traction and lisp fell out of fashion.