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That's an interesting idea. Does a chromatic keyboard layout exist?

_ks3e 6y ago
Yes, but it's very uncommon on pianos these days. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jankó_keyboard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jankó_keyboard Most button accordions and modern electronic instruments (Linnstrument, Soundplane, Eigenharp) are have chromatic layouts... I wonder if you could hook up one of these devices up to a player piano without too much latency.
- gnud 6y ago
  You'd lose the physical dimension of playing the keys. For the accordion you adjust the force of the air, so you don't have to use different forces on the buttons. It's OK that you find them with only your fingertips. That's less OK when the force hitting the key is directly transferred to the string making the sound. You need a dynamic range. It seems to me most of the people here are forgetting that. Such a layout could probably be used on an organ. But I think keyboard size is less of a problem for organs?
  - bluGill 6y ago
    Organs are a smaller key size by tradition dating to before the piano. They are also less keys.
  - edhebert 6y ago
    The Linnstrument captures the dynamic range of strike and release velocity, as well as pressure and aftertouch direction; translated to MPE (MIDI Polyphonic Expression). As someone with relatively small hands for piano, I have been enjoying the wider range of intervals with one hand provided by the Linnstrument's layout.
WalterSear 6y ago
IMHO, there's a much better one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_table_note_layout https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_table_note_layout I have never been able to manage a piano. The hexagonal layout looks daunting at first glance: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rScBRKlTdoE/Shc8M8VM4SI/AAAAAAAASQA/DjXs2cRrl2Y/s1600-h/DSC00113.JPG https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rScBRKlTdoE/Shc8M8VM4SI/AAAAAAAAS... But I have found it much more straightforward. Over and above not needing to memorize every pattern twelve times, the layout is so intuitive, I'll frequently find myself reaching out blindly for notes in my head and landing them correctly. Unfortunately, the manufacturer of the above keyboard is no more, but there a recent successful kickstarter for one: https://www.lumatone.io/ https://www.lumatone.io/

Yes, but it's very uncommon on pianos these days. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jankó_keyboard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jankó_keyboard Most button accordions and modern electronic instruments (Linnstrument, Soundplane, Eigenharp) are have chromatic layouts... I wonder if you could hook up one of these devices up to a player piano without too much latency.

gnud 6y ago
You'd lose the physical dimension of playing the keys. For the accordion you adjust the force of the air, so you don't have to use different forces on the buttons. It's OK that you find them with only your fingertips. That's less OK when the force hitting the key is directly transferred to the string making the sound. You need a dynamic range. It seems to me most of the people here are forgetting that. Such a layout could probably be used on an organ. But I think keyboard size is less of a problem for organs?
- bluGill 6y ago
  Organs are a smaller key size by tradition dating to before the piano. They are also less keys.
- edhebert 6y ago
  The Linnstrument captures the dynamic range of strike and release velocity, as well as pressure and aftertouch direction; translated to MPE (MIDI Polyphonic Expression). As someone with relatively small hands for piano, I have been enjoying the wider range of intervals with one hand provided by the Linnstrument's layout.

WalterSear 6y ago

IMHO, there's a much better one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_table_note_layout https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_table_note_layout I have never been able to manage a piano. The hexagonal layout looks daunting at first glance: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rScBRKlTdoE/Shc8M8VM4SI/AAAAAAAASQA/DjXs2cRrl2Y/s1600-h/DSC00113.JPG https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rScBRKlTdoE/Shc8M8VM4SI/AAAAAAAAS... But I have found it much more straightforward. Over and above not needing to memorize every pattern twelve times, the layout is so intuitive, I'll frequently find myself reaching out blindly for notes in my head and landing them correctly. Unfortunately, the manufacturer of the above keyboard is no more, but there a recent successful kickstarter for one: https://www.lumatone.io/ https://www.lumatone.io/