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> It's impossible to change something. We can only do small things for which no cooperation is needed. And yet the migration to systemd, which required lots of

> It's impossible to change something. We can only do small things for which no cooperation is needed. And yet the migration to systemd, which required lots of changes in disparate packages, happened. And the migration away from python2 will happen too, albeit perhaps not as fast as the people driving it would like. And the new source format happened. And for repeatable builds - Debian leads the world. Methinks "we can only do small things for which no cooperation is needed" might be overstating the case a smidgen. Lots of things with aren't small happen in Debian on a regular basis.

vbernat 6y ago
Migration to systemd is painful and it needed two GR and a lot of drama to move forward. We had to wait debhelper 10 for it to not be a hack in packaging (2016). Migration away from python2 is wanted by doko, the Python maintainer. If he didn't want that, nothing would move. We were stuck for a long time with Python 2.6 because he didn't want to migrate to Python 2.7. As he is also maintainer of gcc and Java, nobody wanted to vote him out. I may have missed the headlines around the new source format. Ack for repeatable builds. What about bikesheds/PPA? Many discussions a few years back but mostly blocked because FTP masters want it to be integrated into DAK and under various other non-technical constraints.