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Americans are primarily disagreeing on how to finance these ideals. They are also afraid of the following things: - Consequences for using free money the wron
by vmception 6y ago
Americans are primarily disagreeing on how to finance these ideals.
They are also afraid of the following things:
- Consequences for using free money the wrong way. We've already seen people imprisoned for using stimulus money[0] that was freely given out with no real checks. And that was from a completely right-wing administration and Department of Justice! People know they'll take the money, they just don't want the opportunity for the state to judge them for its "generosity". It's either no strings attached or not done at all.
- A diminishing set of options. People don't like consolidation of control when the state nationalizes an area, distorts a market with its unlimited resources but is also not very competitive while retaining its ability to imprison and kill people. So people are afraid of that.
Underneath all the arguments about empathy, redistribution, how it is actually financed or expropriated, are those concerns.
[0] site search of doj.gov "ppp indict" https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk009z-HSGv1tJet83_Rj3UGqW1xIvQ%3A1606010857252&ei=6ce5X9PxDtHS-gT39bewDQ&q=doj.gov+ppp+indictment&oq=doj.gov+ppp+indictment&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzIHCCEQChCgATIHCCEQChCgAToECCMQJzoLCC4QsQMQgwEQkQI6BQgAEJECOgsILhCxAxDHARCjAjoCCAA6BQgAELEDOgcIIxDqAhAnOgQIABBDOgIILjoFCC4QsQM6CggAELEDEMkDEEM6CwguELEDEMcBEK8BOggIABDJAxCRAjoFCAAQyQM6BAgAEAo6BwgAEMkDEAo6BAgAEB46CAgAEAgQChAeOgYIABAIEB46BAgAEA06BQghEKABOgUIIRCrAjoGCAAQFhAeUJg2WIZbYMhbaAdwAHgAgAF_iAHfFZIBBTE1LjEzmAEAoAEBqgEHZ3dzLXdperABCsABAQ&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwiTipvViJXtAhVRqZ4KHff6DdYQ4dUDCA0&uact=5 https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk009z-HSGv1tJet83_Rj...
- TulliusCicero 6y ago> already seen people imprisoned for using stimulus money that was freely given out with no real checks. Sorry, what? I must've missed this.
- vmception 6y agosite search of ppp indict doj.gov (oddly, google doesn't seem to index actual site searches of doj.gov, like site:www.doj.gov) https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk009z-HSGv1tJet83_Rj3UGqW1xIvQ%3A1606010857252&ei=6ce5X9PxDtHS-gT39bewDQ&q=doj.gov+ppp+indictment&oq=doj.gov+ppp+indictment&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzIHCCEQChCgATIHCCEQChCgAToECCMQJzoLCC4QsQMQgwEQkQI6BQgAEJECOgsILhCxAxDHARCjAjoCCAA6BQgAELEDOgcIIxDqAhAnOgQIABBDOgIILjoFCC4QsQM6CggAELEDEMkDEEM6CwguELEDEMcBEK8BOggIABDJAxCRAjoFCAAQyQM6BAgAEAo6BwgAEMkDEAo6BAgAEB46CAgAEAgQChAeOgYIABAIEB46BAgAEA06BQghEKABOgUIIRCrAjoGCAAQFhAeUJg2WIZbYMhbaAdwAHgAgAF_iAHfFZIBBTE1LjEzmAEAoAEBqgEHZ3dzLXdperABCsABAQ&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwiTipvViJXtAhVRqZ4KHff6DdYQ4dUDCA0&uact=5 https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk009z-HSGv1tJet83_Rj... with the point not about rationalizing how much you agree with the substance of fraud, but about the state not having created the opportunity to feel defrauded and levy greater charges 'on behalf of the people'