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Real journalists have investigated claims like that, and actually tracked down those so-called "dead people" to find that many were very much alive. It turns ou

Real journalists have investigated claims like that, and actually tracked down those so-called "dead people" to find that many were very much alive. It turns out some people have the same name as other (dead) people, or that birthdates have been recorded incorrectly, or that older widows sometimes have very traditional ideas about married names, and so on. Journalists and government agencies have done a better job investigating than you have, clearly.

salawat 6y ago
If we really take election integrity seriously, it should not be the press doing the investigation, or breaking the news, it should be State law enforcement, on the authority of the Secretary of State for that State. Again, no one wants to take claims of lack of election integrity seriously right now, because everyone is worried about picking up the stain of being some Trump supporter or something. I don't care who wins, I care they win because the process in all cases happened as planned, and that every accusation of a threat to the integeity of the system gets investigated. No republic can afford the luxury of not doing so. If voting is in question, the very foundation of governmental legitimacy is in question. I want everyone to be able to accept that the results were legitimate and that assertions of lack of integrity were given best effort attempts at investigation and resolution which means bringing everyone to the table, like it or not, and laying it all out for God and Everyone. Further, to all those up thread who see the Electoral College as a mere formality, that Elector, unless legislation in your State of questionable Federal Constitutionality, has not one reason to abdicate their right to go Faithless. The Faithless Elector is a feature, not a bug, and was never intended by the Founders to be influenced by some external covenant with what at the end of the day is a private, national scale, highly politically motivated organiztion, that in no way whatsoever is connected or a given with regards to the United States. People need to realize how broken the Two-Party system is, and what ills that two party division creates. As long as those two parties believe their survival or continued legitimacy is free from challenge, there is no end to the issues we'll run into. Finally we are not a democracy. We're a Union of States arranged as a group of Constitutional Republics with a Federal Constitutional Republic with a highly restricted and largely explicitly defined jurisdiction to handle issues of an interstate nature.
- pwinnski 6y ago
  I said "Real journalists" because I was responding to a sentence that started "Real journalists." But I also said "Journalists and government agencies" because government agencies have been doing the investigations. There is a lot of noise around this issue, and that is very deliberate--the noise started even before Election Day, on purpose--but if you filter through the noise, you will find that every state is carrying on, auditing where necessary, and certifying their results. Monday will be the last state certification deadline that matters, in that it will clinch enough certified results to ensure Biden has won the presidency. Presumably people saying that we should wait for certification before declaring the winner will accept the winner then, right? Right?

salawat 6y ago

If we really take election integrity seriously, it should not be the press doing the investigation, or breaking the news, it should be State law enforcement, on the authority of the Secretary of State for that State. Again, no one wants to take claims of lack of election integrity seriously right now, because everyone is worried about picking up the stain of being some Trump supporter or something. I don't care who wins, I care they win because the process in all cases happened as planned, and that every accusation of a threat to the integeity of the system gets investigated. No republic can afford the luxury of not doing so. If voting is in question, the very foundation of governmental legitimacy is in question. I want everyone to be able to accept that the results were legitimate and that assertions of lack of integrity were given best effort attempts at investigation and resolution which means bringing everyone to the table, like it or not, and laying it all out for God and Everyone. Further, to all those up thread who see the Electoral College as a mere formality, that Elector, unless legislation in your State of questionable Federal Constitutionality, has not one reason to abdicate their right to go Faithless. The Faithless Elector is a feature, not a bug, and was never intended by the Founders to be influenced by some external covenant with what at the end of the day is a private, national scale, highly politically motivated organiztion, that in no way whatsoever is connected or a given with regards to the United States. People need to realize how broken the Two-Party system is, and what ills that two party division creates. As long as those two parties believe their survival or continued legitimacy is free from challenge, there is no end to the issues we'll run into. Finally we are not a democracy. We're a Union of States arranged as a group of Constitutional Republics with a Federal Constitutional Republic with a highly restricted and largely explicitly defined jurisdiction to handle issues of an interstate nature.

pwinnski 6y ago
I said "Real journalists" because I was responding to a sentence that started "Real journalists." But I also said "Journalists and government agencies" because government agencies have been doing the investigations. There is a lot of noise around this issue, and that is very deliberate--the noise started even before Election Day, on purpose--but if you filter through the noise, you will find that every state is carrying on, auditing where necessary, and certifying their results. Monday will be the last state certification deadline that matters, in that it will clinch enough certified results to ensure Biden has won the presidency. Presumably people saying that we should wait for certification before declaring the winner will accept the winner then, right? Right?