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Once upon a time Google would've been applauded for forcing people to improve their security. Like when they made https a ranking factor for sites and overnight

Once upon a time Google would've been applauded for forcing people to improve their security. Like when they made https a ranking factor for sites and overnight forced all the laggards to move off http. Now, people just scream "monopoly" at everything google does, good or bad and boy is it getting tedious.

gostsamo 6y ago
Once upon a time Google had "don't be evil" in their corporate mission and people trusted them to act in good faith. Good old times.
- Ygg2 6y ago
  Now it's "Do the right thing (for corporate)"™. How times have changed.
- tester756 6y ago
  They still do >And remember… don’t be evil, and if you see something that you think isn’t right – speak up! >Last updated September 25, 2020 src: https://abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct/ https://abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct/
  - gostsamo 6y ago
    Before, it stated that the company must not be evil. Now, it is for the employees not to be evil somewhere in the end. In the meantime, if you are high up the management ladder, you can fuck the subordinates and get away with millions.
sieabahlpark 6y ago
It's almost like people have rose tinted glasses and opinions can change when a company has repeatedly abused it's position more than a handful of times. Wow, it's really a shocker people could be upset. There comes a point where using a blanket term "security" to define uncompetitive behavior is called covering. They want to ensure ads cannot be blocked with manifest v3, they want to ensure DNS cannot be blocked by ad blockers, they cannot let you use any browser that isn't pre-approved so they can force you to be unable to block their ads. They'll define new web standards to help themselves and break the web. Google isn't doing this for security, they're doing it to keep their ad market dominance and force customers to be required to use only approved browsers. Also when did JS being enabled become a hard requirement for the web as a standard?
cannedslime 6y ago
They are not improving security, just making it more difficult to scrape google, who ironically is 100% based around scraping and living off other peoples content and creations in general.
heavyset_go 6y ago
Leveraging their dominance in one market to limit competition in the browser market is something the millennium-era DOJ went after Microsoft for. Of course, if you just hand-wave away such criticism as being "tedious", I don't expect you to care, but other people do.
Enginerrrd 6y ago
Explain to me how being forced to turn on Javascript or not use a text-based browser results in me having "improved security."
- heavyset_go 6y ago
  The reason Google is requiring you to have JavaScript enabled, potentially opening you up to running malicious code, is because they want to use feature detection to prevent people from using competitors' Google-unapproved browsers.

gostsamo 6y ago

Once upon a time Google had "don't be evil" in their corporate mission and people trusted them to act in good faith. Good old times.

Ygg2 6y ago
Now it's "Do the right thing (for corporate)"™. How times have changed.
tester756 6y ago
They still do >And remember… don’t be evil, and if you see something that you think isn’t right – speak up! >Last updated September 25, 2020 src: https://abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct/ https://abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct/
- gostsamo 6y ago
  Before, it stated that the company must not be evil. Now, it is for the employees not to be evil somewhere in the end. In the meantime, if you are high up the management ladder, you can fuck the subordinates and get away with millions.

sieabahlpark 6y ago

It's almost like people have rose tinted glasses and opinions can change when a company has repeatedly abused it's position more than a handful of times. Wow, it's really a shocker people could be upset. There comes a point where using a blanket term "security" to define uncompetitive behavior is called covering. They want to ensure ads cannot be blocked with manifest v3, they want to ensure DNS cannot be blocked by ad blockers, they cannot let you use any browser that isn't pre-approved so they can force you to be unable to block their ads. They'll define new web standards to help themselves and break the web. Google isn't doing this for security, they're doing it to keep their ad market dominance and force customers to be required to use only approved browsers. Also when did JS being enabled become a hard requirement for the web as a standard?

cannedslime 6y ago

They are not improving security, just making it more difficult to scrape google, who ironically is 100% based around scraping and living off other peoples content and creations in general.

heavyset_go 6y ago

Leveraging their dominance in one market to limit competition in the browser market is something the millennium-era DOJ went after Microsoft for. Of course, if you just hand-wave away such criticism as being "tedious", I don't expect you to care, but other people do.

Enginerrrd 6y ago

Explain to me how being forced to turn on Javascript or not use a text-based browser results in me having "improved security."

heavyset_go 6y ago
The reason Google is requiring you to have JavaScript enabled, potentially opening you up to running malicious code, is because they want to use feature detection to prevent people from using competitors' Google-unapproved browsers.