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Up-to-dateness, no unnecessary distro-specific patching. EDIT: My comment was ambiguous, I didn't mean that there are no Archlinux-specific patches; rather tha

by nsajko 6y ago

Up-to-dateness, no unnecessary distro-specific patching. EDIT: My comment was ambiguous, I didn't mean that there are no Archlinux-specific patches; rather that there's more of an effort with Archlinux to let upstream be upstream.

soraminazuki 6y ago
No "unnecessary" patching, like seriously? I see so many patches in the Arch packages repo I can't even count them all: https://github.com/archlinux/svntogit-packages/search?q=patch https://github.com/archlinux/svntogit-packages/search?q=patc... https://github.com/archlinux/svntogit-packages/search?q=sed https://github.com/archlinux/svntogit-packages/search?q=sed But putting that aside, all distros need huge amounts of patching to make each package get along with the rest of the system. Without patching, many of them won't even build in the first place.
- sam_lowry_ 6y ago
  You have not seen what Debian did to exim, yet.
- Foxboron 6y ago
  There are duplicate PKGBUILD files in the repository, so depending on the PKGBUILD and where it is, there might be 3 results for every 1 patch. In many cases there are two hits pr 1 patch.
- deleted 6y ago
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idoubtit 6y ago
> Up-to-dateness I've read this at least a dozen of times, mostly on HN, and mostly by Archlinux advocates. Many people seem to ignore that Debian testing and Debian unstable are continuously updated (rolling releases). Please stop propagating false claims that taint Archlinux's community reputation.
- jhardy54 6y ago
  Have you tried running Debian unstable (Sid)? If not, I'd suggest you try it before advocating that it's comparable to running Arch. I think the parent comment was silly, but let's not pretend that Sid is a meant to be used as a daily driver.
  - rscho 6y ago
    Testing is usually around 2 weeks behind unstable, and I use it as my daily driver.
    - sam_lowry_ 6y ago
      Except the kernel, unlike in Arch.
    - jhardy54 6y ago
      I'm not familiar with any evidence of that, but I'd like to point out that Debian unstable has a higher percentage of outdated packages than Arch. Compare "outdated projects percentage": - https://repology.org/repository/debian_unstable https://repology.org/repository/debian_unstable - https://repology.org/repository/arch https://repology.org/repository/arch
      - soraminazuki 6y ago
        Looking at that data, Debian unstable maintains roughly 3x more packages than Arch official.
        jhardy54 6y ago
        That's correct, although "maintains" is questionable since Debian testing/unstable aren't meant to be used as daily drivers.
        soraminazuki 6y ago

by nsajko 6y ago

soraminazuki 6y ago

No "unnecessary" patching, like seriously? I see so many patches in the Arch packages repo I can't even count them all: https://github.com/archlinux/svntogit-packages/search?q=patch https://github.com/archlinux/svntogit-packages/search?q=patc... https://github.com/archlinux/svntogit-packages/search?q=sed https://github.com/archlinux/svntogit-packages/search?q=sed But putting that aside, all distros need huge amounts of patching to make each package get along with the rest of the system. Without patching, many of them won't even build in the first place.

sam_lowry_ 6y ago
You have not seen what Debian did to exim, yet.
Foxboron 6y ago
There are duplicate PKGBUILD files in the repository, so depending on the PKGBUILD and where it is, there might be 3 results for every 1 patch. In many cases there are two hits pr 1 patch.
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idoubtit 6y ago

> Up-to-dateness I've read this at least a dozen of times, mostly on HN, and mostly by Archlinux advocates. Many people seem to ignore that Debian testing and Debian unstable are continuously updated (rolling releases). Please stop propagating false claims that taint Archlinux's community reputation.

jhardy54 6y ago
Have you tried running Debian unstable (Sid)? If not, I'd suggest you try it before advocating that it's comparable to running Arch. I think the parent comment was silly, but let's not pretend that Sid is a meant to be used as a daily driver.
- rscho 6y ago
  Testing is usually around 2 weeks behind unstable, and I use it as my daily driver.
  - sam_lowry_ 6y ago
    Except the kernel, unlike in Arch.
  - jhardy54 6y ago
    I'm not familiar with any evidence of that, but I'd like to point out that Debian unstable has a higher percentage of outdated packages than Arch. Compare "outdated projects percentage": - https://repology.org/repository/debian_unstable https://repology.org/repository/debian_unstable - https://repology.org/repository/arch https://repology.org/repository/arch
    - soraminazuki 6y ago
      Looking at that data, Debian unstable maintains roughly 3x more packages than Arch official.
      - jhardy54 6y ago
        That's correct, although "maintains" is questionable since Debian testing/unstable aren't meant to be used as daily drivers.
        soraminazuki 6y ago