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I saw you mention Falcon and NanoCubes so had to check our kyrix. I think this is a really important space. I used to assume Palantir had solved this but now th

by breck 6y ago

I saw you mention Falcon and NanoCubes so had to check our kyrix. I think this is a really important space. I used to assume Palantir had solved this but now that they're public it seems to be more of a smoke and mirrors startup. 3 questions: 1. Why isn't there a demo I can just click and visit? 2. Why not TypeScript? (I think this would be a worthy short term and long term investment —for this project and beyond— to make the upgrade) 3. Why Docker? (This one I'm probably wrong about and am just a curmudgeonly old gray beard). Every time I see Docker I say "nope". I get it's use for massive clusters, but for running on one machine I dislike it (at that point I'd prefer just to run an image on a cloud VM).

tracyhenry 6y ago
Thanks for the feedback! 1. In the original comment there is a link to a demo created by Kyrix: http://wildfire.kyrixdemo.live/ http://wildfire.kyrixdemo.live/ Are you looking for a different type of demo? 2. Honest answer: we are very understaffed academics who also need to write papers and theses. We want to convert to TS, that is just one item on the wish list. 3. We want everyone to be able to spin up a Kyrix app on their laptop using 3 CLI commands (you can try, instructions are in the README). With a backend and a database comes the cost of complex installation. Docker helps make everyone's dev environment consistent so it's easier to troubleshoot.
- breck 6y ago
  1. Ah! Sorry I missed that and went to the GitHub. Might be helpful to also add that link to the "website" field of the GitHub? 2. I get it. I never had the "pleasure" of being an academic, but got the chance to be a software engineer working alongside grad students for a couple of years and it felt like I imagine what taking a tour of a sweatshop factory floor would be like. (a huge exaggeration, but I saw a lot of low pay and lots of time on pdfs and not enough on code) 3. Yeah, I get it, but maybe allowing everyone to run it on their own VM would be better (and providing a one click "click here to get your own droplet on digital ocean running kyrix" sort of thing). I've found that Docker suffers from the XKCD problem (10 different environments to support—what if there was just 1....11 different environments to support!). I've almost never had a pleasant experience using Docker (and anything that requires downloading a 1GB+ image I don't consider pleasant). But again, I'm probably just being a grump and the other grads I worked with all seems to like it. Another idea is could use do this with SQLite? Have a more slimmed down version that didn't require Docker + those dependencies Thanks for the answers! Very cool stuff and it's a very interesting problem.
  - tracyhenry 6y ago
    Again, thanks for the feedback. Your comments are great food for thought!
count 6y ago
Generally Docker lets you say 'here, this works', rather than 'follow these 800 steps to get your environment in the right shape'.
- mssundaram 6y ago
  And now your env is in this weird state that doesn't work for the previous or next tool you try.

by breck 6y ago

tracyhenry 6y ago

Thanks for the feedback! 1. In the original comment there is a link to a demo created by Kyrix: http://wildfire.kyrixdemo.live/ http://wildfire.kyrixdemo.live/ Are you looking for a different type of demo? 2. Honest answer: we are very understaffed academics who also need to write papers and theses. We want to convert to TS, that is just one item on the wish list. 3. We want everyone to be able to spin up a Kyrix app on their laptop using 3 CLI commands (you can try, instructions are in the README). With a backend and a database comes the cost of complex installation. Docker helps make everyone's dev environment consistent so it's easier to troubleshoot.

breck 6y ago
1. Ah! Sorry I missed that and went to the GitHub. Might be helpful to also add that link to the "website" field of the GitHub? 2. I get it. I never had the "pleasure" of being an academic, but got the chance to be a software engineer working alongside grad students for a couple of years and it felt like I imagine what taking a tour of a sweatshop factory floor would be like. (a huge exaggeration, but I saw a lot of low pay and lots of time on pdfs and not enough on code) 3. Yeah, I get it, but maybe allowing everyone to run it on their own VM would be better (and providing a one click "click here to get your own droplet on digital ocean running kyrix" sort of thing). I've found that Docker suffers from the XKCD problem (10 different environments to support—what if there was just 1....11 different environments to support!). I've almost never had a pleasant experience using Docker (and anything that requires downloading a 1GB+ image I don't consider pleasant). But again, I'm probably just being a grump and the other grads I worked with all seems to like it. Another idea is could use do this with SQLite? Have a more slimmed down version that didn't require Docker + those dependencies Thanks for the answers! Very cool stuff and it's a very interesting problem.
- tracyhenry 6y ago
  Again, thanks for the feedback. Your comments are great food for thought!

count 6y ago

Generally Docker lets you say 'here, this works', rather than 'follow these 800 steps to get your environment in the right shape'.

mssundaram 6y ago
And now your env is in this weird state that doesn't work for the previous or next tool you try.