> Software without bugs is absolutely a pipedream. Maybe you just haven't worked on very complex systems written over the span of many years or decades? Flying

> Software without bugs is absolutely a pipedream. Maybe you just haven't worked on very complex systems written over the span of many years or decades? Flying in a metal tube was a far greater pipe dream than what you're describing. Look, we can barely lift metal, how can we possibly make it fly? You're being ridiculous, nobody has done it before! I guess you're right, let me stop thinking and get back to hunter gathering, because science and mathematics is a bunch of pipe dreams that cannot bear any fruit! You know what they used to call pipe dreams a few hundred years ago? Blasphemy. We already know what's possible - we have a book and it tells us everything we need to know. Well alright then, you've totally convinced me with your powerful arguments from authority mister!