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The gov should just pay people $15 an hour to study welding. It's the best way of; i)getting people trained, ii)having a kind-of minimum wage accessible to man
by mymythisisthis 6y ago
The gov should just pay people $15 an hour to study welding. It's the best way of;
i)getting people trained,
ii)having a kind-of minimum wage accessible to many people.
- sunshinerag 6y agoWhy would the gov. need to pay people? if there is a demand for welding people in the market, their pays would signal people to study for it isn't it?
- yvdriess 6y agoThey get payed for the work, not the training (with some exceptions). Not being payed for training is a barrier for people who are not in a good financial situation.
- sunshinerag 6y agoIf there are lot of potential people with willingness to train and a market to pay for trained people a market for training them with deferred loans etc. would be there?
- spenczar5 6y agoI wonder why banks don’t offer loans for job training programs. Seems like it might work. Or maybe they do?
- fred_is_fred 6y agoYou can get student loans to go to welding school - yes.
- milesskorpen 6y agoPeople change plans now to need fewer welders (like deciding not to build things) - because there are too few welders - which results in fewer welders in the future. Becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Government action can help break that cycle.
- vizzier 6y agoThis sort of thing has been theorized under the name of the Job Guarantee. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_guarantee https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_guarantee
- LeifCarrotson 6y agoTons of welding jobs already exist and already pay a minimum of approximately $15/hr. Unless you meant welding engineers when you said 'study', like some of my compatriots building automated robotic weld cells, who get paid 4x that much. And there's plenty of training courses at the local caterer center and community college for both those jobs at reasonable rates. Local manufacturers often pay hourly+tuition for their best fabricators or line workers who want a promotion to the welder position to go through one of those programs.
- dugditches 6y agoWelding seems to be this fruit that people reach for when they think of Trades. There's lots of welding schools churning out 'graduates' throughout the year. Welders are almost always the first guys laid off in shops. The 'learn to code' thing thrown around would be better.
- no_wizard 6y agoI wish it would not be the narrative. I think in university and where else appropriate, it should be taught, like a friend of mine who works in finance said, everyone will need this as a skill eventually for complex work The whole narrative of producing more 'software developers' in general though? No thank you. I see enough people coming off of less than stellar bootcamps (there are, in fact, good ones, though I'm finding this less true over time) who just see dollar signs who have no interest in this as a craft. I don't want to encourage that, at all. In fact, I want certification for the title of Software Engineer, no different than having to be certified like civil engineers do. Uncle Bob is right about this one.
- stjohnswarts 6y agoWhat's special about welding? You also need carpenters, plumbers, electricians, civil engineers, etc for any major infrastructure undertaking, having 50,000 unemployed welders doesn't really make any sense.