And confluent/kafka w/4.5B. Not to mention Google themselves are making money from open sourcing containers, like tons of it. They start this conversation sayi

And confluent/kafka w/4.5B. Not to mention Google themselves are making money from open sourcing containers, like tons of it. They start this conversation saying "only redhat can be redhat", but then basically throw their hands up in the air because they can't describe all of open source as one business model. Different products & technologies require different business models. I don't think it's surprising that a podcast named "on premises IT" is out of touch with a wide array of successful service based business models (I say this with love).