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Love the product, but this deck... jeez. It's like all this companies that claim that you're in the family and then this family ask you to leave. I've seen too

Love the product, but this deck... jeez. It's like all this companies that claim that you're in the family and then this family ask you to leave. I've seen too much places with "culture" when in reality it's a toxic as hell.

kanox 6y ago
It's not a family, it's a workplace. If the company pretends otherwise it's better not to work there.
dshah 6y ago
I agree with you on that front. In earlier versions of the deck, we actually explicitly called out that we are NOT a family. We are a team with a common goal. You don't get to choose your family, but you do get to choose your team. h/t to Netflix for that original "team not a family".
- hitekker 6y ago
  Why did you remove that call-out?
  - dshah 6y ago
    Candidly, this year, because of the pandemic, we've come closer together as a group. Not quite a family -- but closer. Also, I needed to make room in the deck to articulate our position on diversity and inclusion.
    - freewilly1040 6y ago
      > we've come closer together as a group Why are you confident that this feeling is shared by your employees?
    - layoutIfNeeded 6y ago
      >articulate our position on diversity and inclusion I wonder what that position could be! Must be some revolutionarily fresh take on diversity™ and inclusion™ that no other tech company had espoused before. This is satire, right?
    - justforyou 6y ago
      I know of at least one customer that you're going to loose as a result of this tone deaf PR, and based on your responses in this thread am hoping that you loose a lot more.
baxtr 6y ago
Well, I don't know. Families can be quite toxic, too.
commandlinefan 6y ago
Reminds me of this reddit post about stack overflow: https://i.redd.it/per2eihv0jn31.png https://i.redd.it/per2eihv0jn31.png. "Hi, welcome to Stack Overflow! Please take time to read the rules before posting so that you don't make such a big fool of yourself next time. We're a friendly bunch here so it's ok that you're an inferior human being and clearly don't know what you're doing, but just be sure not to post here again and that would be great. Thanks!"
xkcd-sucks 6y ago
One is most likely to be molested as a child by a family member, and, most of these companies prefer young hires
- diveanon 6y ago
  You're getting downvoted but this is exactly on point. Places that emphasize culture usually do so to compensate for their other failings. As an older dev I don't really care about culture, but instead prioritize boundaries, compensation, and tech maturity. Keep your ping pong table, give me a 9-5.

kanox 6y ago

It's not a family, it's a workplace. If the company pretends otherwise it's better not to work there.

dshah 6y ago

I agree with you on that front. In earlier versions of the deck, we actually explicitly called out that we are NOT a family. We are a team with a common goal. You don't get to choose your family, but you do get to choose your team. h/t to Netflix for that original "team not a family".

hitekker 6y ago
Why did you remove that call-out?
- dshah 6y ago
  Candidly, this year, because of the pandemic, we've come closer together as a group. Not quite a family -- but closer. Also, I needed to make room in the deck to articulate our position on diversity and inclusion.
  - freewilly1040 6y ago
    > we've come closer together as a group Why are you confident that this feeling is shared by your employees?
  - layoutIfNeeded 6y ago
    >articulate our position on diversity and inclusion I wonder what that position could be! Must be some revolutionarily fresh take on diversity™ and inclusion™ that no other tech company had espoused before. This is satire, right?
  - justforyou 6y ago
    I know of at least one customer that you're going to loose as a result of this tone deaf PR, and based on your responses in this thread am hoping that you loose a lot more.

baxtr 6y ago

Well, I don't know. Families can be quite toxic, too.

commandlinefan 6y ago

Reminds me of this reddit post about stack overflow: https://i.redd.it/per2eihv0jn31.png https://i.redd.it/per2eihv0jn31.png. "Hi, welcome to Stack Overflow! Please take time to read the rules before posting so that you don't make such a big fool of yourself next time. We're a friendly bunch here so it's ok that you're an inferior human being and clearly don't know what you're doing, but just be sure not to post here again and that would be great. Thanks!"

xkcd-sucks 6y ago

One is most likely to be molested as a child by a family member, and, most of these companies prefer young hires

diveanon 6y ago
You're getting downvoted but this is exactly on point. Places that emphasize culture usually do so to compensate for their other failings. As an older dev I don't really care about culture, but instead prioritize boundaries, compensation, and tech maturity. Keep your ping pong table, give me a 9-5.